[NEWS] Ukraine Can’t Win the War

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Post by XXXtrailers » July 22nd, 2025, 12:52 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
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What if he has already???
The only people with the authority to remove the Ukranian president is the Ukranian people. Not Trump or Putin and the people voted overwhelmingly for Zelensky. In fact his approval ratings are in the mid 60s....way more than almost any other democratic head of state.

Don't forget, Zelensky is not the first pro European president they have elected. 3 of their last 4 presidents have been pro Europe and anti Russia. The one that wasn't (Yanukovych) was ran out of the country when he refused to sign the EU trade deal and instead tried to cozy up to Putin. Clearly they don't want to be part of Russia anymore

If Trump tries to remove a democratically elected president then I suspect Europe will put boots on the ground and that would take us a lot closer to WW3

The day will come when Trump tells Zelensky to get on his bike. He's just a useful tool for America to fight this proxy war with Russia. And no European countries can not do anything without America so whatever the US president says flies.

My 2 cents.
That is not how Ukrainian politics works)
US have huge impact on it, but this scenario is a huge overestimating of this impact.

If he will be supported by the people, no country will change that. We could fight totally alone and we will, if somebody try to manage our leaders. russia is trying to do this for decades.

But I suppose it’s good to have an elections soon
We can see how staying too long in power can influence a person, on putin example. It’s poisonous.
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Post by Matty2 » July 23rd, 2025, 7:44 am

"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?




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Post by XXXtrailers » July 23rd, 2025, 8:53 am

Matty2 wrote: ↑
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"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?
If they do something wrong, of course
Leaders often use wars to cut people's rights
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Post by Matty2 » July 23rd, 2025, 9:44 am

XXXtrailers wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 8:53 am
Matty2 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 7:44 am
"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?
If they do something wrong, of course
Leaders often use wars to cut people's rights
You are right in theory but the country is at war, people need to rally around their leaders and fight not protest. This is handing a bonus to Russia don't you see it. I think it is wrong.




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Post by AlexO » July 23rd, 2025, 10:01 am

Matty2 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 7:44 am
"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?


Throwing out an idea, is Putin behind the protests?
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Post by XXXtrailers » July 23rd, 2025, 11:22 am

Matty2 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 9:44 am
XXXtrailers wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 8:53 am
Matty2 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 7:44 am
"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?
If they do something wrong, of course
Leaders often use wars to cut people's rights
You are right in theory but the country is at war, people need to rally around their leaders and fight not protest. This is handing a bonus to Russia don't you see it. I think it is wrong.
People fight not for the leaders
They fight for the country and how they see it
If they see that country goes wrong way they need to step out and as soon as possible
Longer you wait harder it be
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Post by XXXtrailers » July 23rd, 2025, 11:26 am

AlexO wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 10:01 am
Matty2 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 7:44 am
"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?


Throwing out an idea, is Putin behind the protests?
Only if he passed the law to reduce corruption control which I doubt
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Post by TheButcher » July 23rd, 2025, 12:25 pm

XXXtrailers wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 11:26 am
AlexO wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 10:01 am
Matty2 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 7:44 am
"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?


Throwing out an idea, is Putin behind the protests?
Only if he passed the law to reduce corruption control which I doubt
It's a fair question Alexo but as XXXtrailers said, it's a law being passed by Ukrainian's parliament so it's hard to see how he could influence the president and parliamentarians.

You know it really does not matter to me what they pass, what matters to me is for the killing to stop. Every life is special we some times hear of so many deaths during a conflict it becomes a number, no every life is special. I am not holding my breath for any major break through to come out of the meeting between the 2 sides in Istanbul today, but it would sure be great if they could come to a cease fire agreement.

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Post by tacnet » July 24th, 2025, 12:50 am

XXXtrailers wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 11:26 am
AlexO wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 10:01 am
Matty2 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2025, 7:44 am
"Zelenskyy faces major anti-corruption protests as Ukraine prepares for Russia talks"


https://abcnews.go.com/International/ze ... =123987847

The country is at war is this the time to protest against their government?


Throwing out an idea, is Putin behind the protests?
Only if he passed the law to reduce corruption control which I doubt
They obviously didn't pass the law but I am 100% sure that Putin's social media bots are actively stirring things up. They do it all the time on Twitter, Youtube etc

Any pro Ukrainian Youtube channels are up against an army of bots that actively dislike their content and promote pro Russian (or anti Ukrainian) content. You can bet that a lot of this is being driven by Russia

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Post by XXXtrailers » July 24th, 2025, 1:46 am

tacnet wrote: ↑
July 24th, 2025, 12:50 am
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July 23rd, 2025, 11:26 am
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July 23rd, 2025, 10:01 am




Throwing out an idea, is Putin behind the protests?
Only if he passed the law to reduce corruption control which I doubt
They obviously didn't pass the law but I am 100% sure that Putin's social media bots are actively stirring things up. They do it all the time on Twitter, Youtube etc

Any pro Ukrainian Youtube channels are up against an army of bots that actively dislike their content and promote pro Russian (or anti Ukrainian) content. You can bet that a lot of this is being driven by Russia
Yeah they could use the moment
They wanted people outside whole 3 years, but only now it happened, because government actually did the wrong thing.

On that matter, Zelensky said that they “heard the streets” and they are planning to reverse the law. Let’s see…
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Post by JustJoe » July 24th, 2025, 8:19 am

Is the Maidan happening all over again?
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Post by XXXtrailers » July 24th, 2025, 8:38 am

JustJoe wrote: ↑
July 24th, 2025, 8:19 am
Is the Maidan happening all over again?
Nope it’s just local protests
They behave really smart and not ignoring it or god forbid trying to suppress it
So probably it will end soon with the law has been reversed
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Post by cimage » July 25th, 2025, 9:33 am

Anything positive come out of the talks?
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Post by TheButcher » July 26th, 2025, 8:07 pm

This has not been a good week for Zelensky.



"E.U. Cuts Aid to Ukraine Over Corruption Concerns

The $1.7 billion reduction capped a tough week for President Volodymyr Zelensky as he deals with Ukraine’s governance issues. "


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/worl ... n-aid.html

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Post by AlexO » July 28th, 2025, 10:56 am

Trump reduced the 50 day deadline to 10-12 days from today

"President Donald Trump on Monday said he was "very disappointed" in Russian President Vladimir Putin and said he will "reduce" the original 50-day deadline he set earlier this month to 10–12 days from today.

"I’m going to make a new deadline, of about 10, 10 or 12 days from today," Trump told reporters from Scotland. "There’s no reason for waiting. It was 50 days. I wanted to be generous, but we just don’t see any progress being made.""


https://www.foxnews.com/world/trump-dis ... y-deadline
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