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Post by BrasSmonkey » September 30th, 2019, 3:56 pm

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(CNN)An attorney for a city in Mississippi said in court documents a man who was shot by police in a case of mistaken identity has no Fourth or 14th Amendment protections because he was not a US citizen.
Ismael Lopez was shot and killed at his mobile home in July 2017 after police mixed up his address with that of a man wanted for domestic assault. Murray Wells, an attorney representing Lopez's family, said an investigation commissioned by his firm revealed that Lopez died of a single bullet to the back of the head.
In June, Lopez's family filed a $20 million wrongful-death lawsuit in federal court against Southaven, the city's police chief and the officers involved in Lopez's death.

In response, an attorney for the city filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit on September 4, saying Lopez had no Fourth or 14th Amendment protections because Lopez was an "illegal alien" at the time of his death.

The city also said Lopez was a convicted felon "for a crime of violence" while in the US, and did "not have the same rights as legal or resident aliens."
"If he ever had Fourth Amendment or Fourteenth Amendment civil rights, they were lost by his own conduct and misconduct. Ismael Lopez may have been a person on American soil but he was not one of the 'We, the People of the United States' entitled to the civil rights invoked in this lawsuit," a city attorney wrote in her motion.
In the conclusion, the city lawyer says, "Federal civil rights are not civil rewards for violating the laws of the United States."

Lopez had previously been deported twice and re-entered the country without permission, according to a Mississippi Bureau of Investigation report obtained by the Commercial Appeal in Memphis. He had been arrested on domestic violence and DUI charges in Washington State in the 1990s, according to the report.
At a Thursday news conference, Wells, the Lopez family attorney, described the city's response as "chilling," reported CNN affiliate WATN.
"In an address to a federal judge in an open pleading in court, the city of Southaven has announced that it is their policy that if you are an undocumented resident of that city, you have no constitutional protections," Wells said.
"Meaning, that storm troopers can come into your house and kill you without regard to any constitutional results or repercussions whatsoever."
"It's in direct conflict with the Constitution of the United States, which clearly says under the 14th Amendment line one (that) all persons on United States territories have constitutional rights," Wells said. "We're shocked; we do not believe that those arguments are in good faith. We don't believe they're founded on any real law whatsoever."
A local grand jury declined to indict the two officers, DeSoto County District Attorney John Champion said in July 2018, according to CNN affiliate WREG.

Champion said the grand jury knew the officers went to the wrong address and never identified themselves at the door. He said he gave the grand jury the option to indict on charges of homicide or manslaughter, or to not indict.
In a statement issued in July 2018, Steve Pirtle, then the Southaven police chief, said one of the officers involved in the case had left the department, WREG reported.

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Post by HeidiHoe » October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am

We are living in dangerous times. So much was eroded over the last 3 years it's downright scary. I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Did we not learn? Are we doomed to repeat?
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Post by BrasSmonkey » October 1st, 2019, 6:09 am

HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am
We are living in dangerous times. So much was eroded over the last 3 years it's downright scary. I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Did we not learn? Are we doomed to repeat?
the guy beat on his wife and was driving drunk. it seemed he had learned his lesson. he was deported twice. i would bet he was a runner. i have never heard of an illegal alien running and shooting at ice. well the 3rd deportation is the last :?
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Post by HeidiHoe » October 1st, 2019, 6:20 am

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 6:09 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am
We are living in dangerous times. So much was eroded over the last 3 years it's downright scary. I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Did we not learn? Are we doomed to repeat?
the guy beat on his wife and was driving drunk. it seemed he had learned his lesson. he was deported twice. i would bet he was a runner. i have never heard of an illegal alien running and shooting at ice. well the 3rd deportation is the last :?
The cops went to to wrong house. They knew none of this. Besides, does this make it okay to shoot him in the back of the head? Sounds excessive don't you think? You can't justify this crap. It sets precedence. Who's door gets busted in next? It's a slippery slope.
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Post by BrasSmonkey » October 1st, 2019, 10:58 am

HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 6:20 am
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 6:09 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am
We are living in dangerous times. So much was eroded over the last 3 years it's downright scary. I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Did we not learn? Are we doomed to repeat?
the guy beat on his wife and was driving drunk. it seemed he had learned his lesson. he was deported twice. i would bet he was a runner. i have never heard of an illegal alien running and shooting at ice. well the 3rd deportation is the last :?
The cops went to to wrong house. They knew none of this. Besides, does this make it okay to shoot him in the back of the head? Sounds excessive don't you think? You can't justify this crap. It sets precedence. Who's door gets busted in next? It's a slippery slope.
when you run with a felony the police can use deadly force because they have no idea what you have. in this case he was deported. all option for rights were gone. they need to deport his wife now.
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Post by TheButcher » October 2nd, 2019, 1:18 am

HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 6:20 am
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 6:09 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am
We are living in dangerous times. So much was eroded over the last 3 years it's downright scary. I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Did we not learn? Are we doomed to repeat?
the guy beat on his wife and was driving drunk. it seemed he had learned his lesson. he was deported twice. i would bet he was a runner. i have never heard of an illegal alien running and shooting at ice. well the 3rd deportation is the last :?
The cops went to to wrong house. They knew none of this. Besides, does this make it okay to shoot him in the back of the head? Sounds excessive don't you think? You can't justify this crap. It sets precedence. Who's door gets busted in next? It's a slippery slope.
I could not have said it better HeidiHoe

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Post by BrasSmonkey » October 2nd, 2019, 2:08 am

HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am
He was doomed to repeat?
it was hist last time
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Post by HeidiHoe » October 2nd, 2019, 2:50 am

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 2:08 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am
He was doomed to repeat?
it was hist last time
No... doomed to repeat history. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Like I said, I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Think Germany circa 1933.
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Post by BrasSmonkey » October 2nd, 2019, 3:00 am

HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 2:50 am
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 2:08 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 1st, 2019, 5:32 am
He was doomed to repeat?
it was hist last time
No... doomed to repeat history. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Like I said, I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Think Germany circa 1933.
i was just messing around. yes! let's repeat germany! LOL they are not being sent to places to be killed. they are sent back to their homeland. if this asshole stayed where belonged he may be alive. im trying to rally trump to put employers of illegal aliens in prison.
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Post by HeidiHoe » October 2nd, 2019, 3:17 am

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:00 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 2:50 am
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 2:08 am

it was hist last time
No... doomed to repeat history. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Like I said, I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Think Germany circa 1933.
i was just messing around. yes! let's repeat germany! LOL they are not being sent to places to be killed. they are sent back to their homeland. if this asshole stayed where belonged he may be alive. im trying to rally trump to put employers of illegal aliens in prison.
Yep, that's where the blame lies, with the employers. The system needs fixed.

I'll spell out some of the parallels...
Hitler united the people behind him by giving them someone to blame, the Jewish people. Then he dehumanized them, bit by bit. Once you declassify a group of people it's possible to damn near do anything without inciting moral outrage. You can experiment on them, gas them, stick them in cages, whatever, and people cheer you on.

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Post by BrasSmonkey » October 2nd, 2019, 3:37 am

HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:17 am
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:00 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 2:50 am


No... doomed to repeat history. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Like I said, I can see definite parallels to another time in history. Think Germany circa 1933.
i was just messing around. yes! let's repeat germany! LOL they are not being sent to places to be killed. they are sent back to their homeland. if this asshole stayed where belonged he may be alive. im trying to rally trump to put employers of illegal aliens in prison.
Yep, that's where the blame lies, with the employers. The system needs fixed.

I'll spell out some of the parallels...
Hitler united the people behind him by giving them someone to blame, the Jewish people. Then he dehumanized them, bit by bit. Once you declassify a group of people it's possible to damn near do anything without inciting moral outrage. You can experiment on them, gas them, stick them in cages, whatever, and people cheer you on.

Listen to the rhetoric... we're on a slippery slope
what?? jews were not crossing into germany! :lol: :lol: these people are coming here and stealing all kinds of mess. we had amber alerts here every fucking day! then we were blessed with sb 1070! now police can check status just like mexico! illegal aliens will pay. jail then exiled forever. the problem illegal aliens lack respect for others.
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Post by HeidiHoe » October 2nd, 2019, 4:06 am

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:37 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:17 am
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:00 am

i was just messing around. yes! let's repeat germany! LOL they are not being sent to places to be killed. they are sent back to their homeland. if this asshole stayed where belonged he may be alive. im trying to rally trump to put employers of illegal aliens in prison.
Yep, that's where the blame lies, with the employers. The system needs fixed.

I'll spell out some of the parallels...
Hitler united the people behind him by giving them someone to blame, the Jewish people. Then he dehumanized them, bit by bit. Once you declassify a group of people it's possible to damn near do anything without inciting moral outrage. You can experiment on them, gas them, stick them in cages, whatever, and people cheer you on.

Listen to the rhetoric... we're on a slippery slope
what?? jews were not crossing into germany! :lol: :lol: these people are coming here and stealing all kinds of mess. we had amber alerts here every fucking day! then we were blessed with sb 1070! now police can check status just like mexico! illegal aliens will pay. jail then exiled forever. the problem illegal aliens lack respect for others.
I said parallels. I didn't say identical. If you can't see that I'm wasting my breath.

I do agree the system needs fixed and the laws enforced. Problem is we haven't been enforcing it and now we have this mess. We need to hold the companies that benefit legally responsible. We need to clean up our mess via deportation and perhaps a path way based on time in country for existing illegals. Once that's done we need to ensure we never let this happen again. No detention, just straight deport. Once everything is cleaned up then legal immigration should be possible. Right now the wait to immigrate from some countries can be 20 plus years.

We need to fill the jail cells with employers.
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Post by BrasSmonkey » October 2nd, 2019, 4:16 am

HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 4:06 am
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:37 am
HeidiHoe wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 3:17 am

Yep, that's where the blame lies, with the employers. The system needs fixed.

I'll spell out some of the parallels...
Hitler united the people behind him by giving them someone to blame, the Jewish people. Then he dehumanized them, bit by bit. Once you declassify a group of people it's possible to damn near do anything without inciting moral outrage. You can experiment on them, gas them, stick them in cages, whatever, and people cheer you on.

Listen to the rhetoric... we're on a slippery slope
what?? jews were not crossing into germany! :lol: :lol: these people are coming here and stealing all kinds of mess. we had amber alerts here every fucking day! then we were blessed with sb 1070! now police can check status just like mexico! illegal aliens will pay. jail then exiled forever. the problem illegal aliens lack respect for others.
I said parallels. I didn't say identical. If you can't see that I'm wasting my breath.

I do agree the system needs fixed and the laws enforced. Problem is we haven't been enforcing it and now we have this mess. We need to hold the companies that benefit legally responsible. We need to clean up our mess via deportation and perhaps a path way based on time in country for existing illegals. Once that's done we need to ensure we never let this happen again. No detention, just straight deport. Once everything is cleaned up then legal immigration should be possible. Right now the wait to immigrate from some countries can be 20 plus years.

We need to fill the jail cells with employers.
thats what trump is doing! there was a guy refused to get out of the car using his kids to shield from ice... he was deported in 2 days! :lol: eat sleep he was in mexico the next day! his girlfriend sent his things to mexico LOL. it's called employer sanctions i have been pushing it for several years now.
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Post by TheButcher » October 2nd, 2019, 8:48 pm

Not to tick off anyone but here is the problem, businesses want illegals in the country so they can have access to under paid cheap labour. You get rid of illegals then the cost of fruit, vegetables, construction, janitorial and hospitality services will all go up. Just to mention a couple of industries.

Guess who does he lawns, house cleaning and dirty jobs legal residents will not do for even minimum wage in States like California, Arizona, Texas, Nevada and New Mexico? Businesses and end users turn a blind eye on the subject to keep costs and prices down.

No I am not saying let illegals enter the country but there is a certain reality that has to be told, they do the jobs legals will not touch.

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Post by BrasSmonkey » October 2nd, 2019, 8:54 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
October 2nd, 2019, 8:48 pm
Not to tick off anyone but here is the problem, businesses want illegals in the country so they can have access to under paid cheap labour. You get rid of illegals then the cost of fruit, vegetables, construction, janitorial and hospitality services will all go up. Just to mention a couple of industries.

Guess who does he lawns, house cleaning and dirty jobs legal residents will not do for even minimum wage in States like California, Arizona, Texas, Nevada and New Mexico? Businesses and end users turn a blind eye on the subject to keep costs and prices down.

No I am not saying let illegals enter the country but there is a certain reality that has to be told, they do the jobs legals will not touch.
yeah but what about the healthcare cause they have lots of kids. schools there are things that the government pays out. put that into american pockets. where you live they wont take in illegal alien at any point
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