Trumps "Liberation day"
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China’s military modernization, fueled by its manufacturing growth and initiatives like "Made in China 2025," has significantly enhanced its defense capabilities. By 2024, China’s defense industrial base was producing advanced weaponry, including over 200 J-20 stealth fighters and two operational aircraft carriers, outpacing the U.S. in areas like shipbuilding, with a capacity roughly 230 times larger. This military buildup has coincided with assertive actions toward neighboring countries, such as territorial disputes in the South China Sea, aggressive maritime maneuvers against the Philippines, and pressure on Taiwan, which many view as bullying behavior. There are concerns about China’s growing influence and its use of economic leverage, like restricting rare earth exports, to challenge U.S. interests
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And Trumps chaotic on-again, off-again tariffs are handing the WORLD to China on a plategotonudecom wrote: ↑August 15th, 2025, 6:50 pmChina’s military modernization, fueled by its manufacturing growth and initiatives like "Made in China 2025," has significantly enhanced its defense capabilities. By 2024, China’s defense industrial base was producing advanced weaponry, including over 200 J-20 stealth fighters and two operational aircraft carriers, outpacing the U.S. in areas like shipbuilding, with a capacity roughly 230 times larger. This military buildup has coincided with assertive actions toward neighboring countries, such as territorial disputes in the South China Sea, aggressive maritime maneuvers against the Philippines, and pressure on Taiwan, which many view as bullying behavior. There are concerns about China’s growing influence and its use of economic leverage, like restricting rare earth exports, to challenge U.S. interests
Most countries (including EU, Canada and even Japan) are now seeking closer trade ties with China as they are seen as a more reliable partner than the USA. Where Trump canned US-AID, China is stepping in with its belt and road initiatives and building closer economic ties with those countries. Where Trump scrapped all development for renewable energy, China is surging ahead establishing itself as the No 1 global supplier of renewable energy technology.
If Trump wanted to put pressure on China then he should have stuck with China and not lash out at the rest of the world because now, the rest of the world is drawing closer to China
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I agree he unintentionally brought US allies and foes closer to China out of their mutual needs to look for alternative trading partners.
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Blah blah!TheButcher wrote: ↑August 16th, 2025, 1:32 pmI agree he unintentionally brought US allies and foes closer to China out of their mutual needs to look for alternative trading partners.
Love the Monday morning quarter backing going on!
Short term pains.
Trump’s tariffs, NATO pressure, and energy and investment strategies have shown tangible results—$130 billion cumulative year-to-date in tariff revenue, NATO’s 5% pledge, $750 billion in corporate investments, and booming U.S. LNG exports. These outweigh short-term risks like allies’ pivot to China if sustained strategically.
Long-term, the U.S. could achieve economic and geopolitical dominance, while allies gain security and economic resilience.
Countries engage with China out of necessity, but its military buildup limits trust, pushing nations toward diversified trade and U.S.-led alliances over time.
To maximize benefits, Trump will refine tariffs to target adversaries like China while offering allies incentives, ensuring the forum’s concerns don’t overshadow the broader wins.
Takes time for Trump to get people like you to comprehend what is going on and behave fairly to the country that protect the world from slavery, dominance and death.
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gotonudecom wrote: ↑August 18th, 2025, 3:39 pmBlah blah!TheButcher wrote: ↑August 16th, 2025, 1:32 pmI agree he unintentionally brought US allies and foes closer to China out of their mutual needs to look for alternative trading partners.
Love the Monday morning quarter backing going on!
Short term pains.
Trump’s tariffs, NATO pressure, and energy and investment strategies have shown tangible results—$130 billion cumulative year-to-date in tariff revenue, NATO’s 5% pledge, $750 billion in corporate investments, and booming U.S. LNG exports. These outweigh short-term risks like allies’ pivot to China if sustained strategically.
- "$130 billion cumulative year-to-date in tariff revenue" - Yes and every single cent of that is paid for by American consumers and businesses
- "NATO’s 5% pledge" - This is more to do with the fact that we have a major war on our doorstep (Ukraine) rather than because Trump told them to. But I agree this should have been done a long time ago
- "$750 billion in corporate investments" - That's $750 billion in "promised" investments mostly by Big Tech. Every Big Tech billionaire is trying to play to Trump's ego by giving him gifts and promising investments in AI etc. Let's see how much of that actually gets spent. So far this year, the US tech companies have spent nearly half a trillion dollars in AI for revenues of only about $30 billion. (That's roughly the same size as the global smart watch industry). That's unsustainable and a bubble that is going to burst just like the .com bubble
- "booming U.S. LNG exports" - Yes but not because of anything Trump has done. It's because Europe has stopped buying Russian gas and is now importing US LNG
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The tariffs on China worked well..... for India roflmao
"India has become the No. 1 maker of smartphones shipped to the US, and its iPhone production there jumped 63% (to $7.5 billion in exports) in the second quarter of 2025 as Apple has maneuvered through the new landscape of US tariffs.
Early this year, CEO Tim Cook said that Apple would be moving nearly all of its iPhone assembly to India to avoid tariff penalties. However, China will still be the top producer (by far) of iPhones to non-US markets."
https://www.cnet.com/tech/apple-is-maki ... Q0Nzk4NjA3
"India has become the No. 1 maker of smartphones shipped to the US, and its iPhone production there jumped 63% (to $7.5 billion in exports) in the second quarter of 2025 as Apple has maneuvered through the new landscape of US tariffs.
Early this year, CEO Tim Cook said that Apple would be moving nearly all of its iPhone assembly to India to avoid tariff penalties. However, China will still be the top producer (by far) of iPhones to non-US markets."
https://www.cnet.com/tech/apple-is-maki ... Q0Nzk4NjA3
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Hold a second Trump put 50% tariffs on India how will this affect IPhone prices going forward.Russ wrote: ↑August 19th, 2025, 1:31 pmThe tariffs on China worked well..... for India roflmao
"India has become the No. 1 maker of smartphones shipped to the US, and its iPhone production there jumped 63% (to $7.5 billion in exports) in the second quarter of 2025 as Apple has maneuvered through the new landscape of US tariffs.
Early this year, CEO Tim Cook said that Apple would be moving nearly all of its iPhone assembly to India to avoid tariff penalties. However, China will still be the top producer (by far) of iPhones to non-US markets."
https://www.cnet.com/tech/apple-is-maki ... Q0Nzk4NjA3
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Affman wrote: ↑August 20th, 2025, 5:28 pmHold a second Trump put 50% tariffs on India how will this affect IPhone prices going forward.Russ wrote: ↑August 19th, 2025, 1:31 pmThe tariffs on China worked well..... for India roflmao
"India has become the No. 1 maker of smartphones shipped to the US, and its iPhone production there jumped 63% (to $7.5 billion in exports) in the second quarter of 2025 as Apple has maneuvered through the new landscape of US tariffs.
Early this year, CEO Tim Cook said that Apple would be moving nearly all of its iPhone assembly to India to avoid tariff penalties. However, China will still be the top producer (by far) of iPhones to non-US markets."
https://www.cnet.com/tech/apple-is-maki ... Q0Nzk4NjA3
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Bottom line has your spending cost more since the Liberation Day tariffs?
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They wont have fully kicked in yet because most of them were paused at the last minute. Then you've got distributors who've stockpiled goods to try and beat the tariffs
My guess is it will be another 2 or 3 months before you really start to feel it
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Tariffs are working NOT!
United States liquor exports to Canada declined by 85 percent in the second quarter of 2025, according to a new report, which cited the “adverse impact” of ongoing trade tensions.
The midyear report, released Monday by the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States (DISCUS), shows that exports to Canada dropped to $9.6 million in the second quarter of 2025, down from $63.1 million in the second quarter of 2024."
https://thehill.com/business/5541921-us ... 5-percent/
United States liquor exports to Canada declined by 85 percent in the second quarter of 2025, according to a new report, which cited the “adverse impact” of ongoing trade tensions.
The midyear report, released Monday by the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States (DISCUS), shows that exports to Canada dropped to $9.6 million in the second quarter of 2025, down from $63.1 million in the second quarter of 2024."
https://thehill.com/business/5541921-us ... 5-percent/
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85% is bad for liquor exportersDorman wrote: ↑October 6th, 2025, 8:38 pmTariffs are working NOT!
United States liquor exports to Canada declined by 85 percent in the second quarter of 2025, according to a new report, which cited the “adverse impact” of ongoing trade tensions.
The midyear report, released Monday by the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States (DISCUS), shows that exports to Canada dropped to $9.6 million in the second quarter of 2025, down from $63.1 million in the second quarter of 2024."
https://thehill.com/business/5541921-us ... 5-percent/
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Now that the Nobel Peace prize was not awarded to Trump I smell tariffs going on Norway, what you think he'll do.
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Trump is plastering 100% tariffs on China starting November 1st 2025
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