Trumps "Liberation day"

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Is Canada fucked?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/business ... rade-talks
Pres. Trump is ending all trade talks with Canada and will put new tariffs.

Only if he sends in the B-2's

[tacnet]

Is Canada fucked?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/business ... rade-talks
Pres. Trump is ending all trade talks with Canada and will put new tariffs.

Why are we picking a fight with our northern neighbour it seems wrong to me.

Trump talks tough about Canada but what a lot of people don't realize is that Trump NEEDS Canada if he's going to build his Golden Dome. Without them, he will have a massive blind spot all across his northern border !

Any missiles coming in over the Arctic (the shortest route between China/Russia and the USA) will have to fly over Canada. Whilst you can detect a launch from space, its a lot hard to track a missile's trajectory from space (because of the rotation of the earth, the movement of satellites and these missiles move at up to Mach 8) so you need ground based radar and a radar station in Northern Canada will spot the missile way before the US can.

The idea is to shoot the missile down before it gets to US air space and for that, he needs Canada. And guess what ??? Canada knows this !!

One way or another, Trump is going to have to play ball with Canada whether he likes it or not

[gotonudecom]

Is Canada fucked?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/business ... rade-talks
Pres. Trump is ending all trade talks with Canada and will put new tariffs.

Why are we picking a fight with our northern neighbour it seems wrong to me.

Trump talks tough about Canada but what a lot of people don't realize is that Trump NEEDS Canada if he's going to build his Golden Dome. Without them, he will have a massive blind spot all across his northern border !

Any missiles coming in over the Arctic (the shortest route between China/Russia and the USA) will have to fly over Canada. Whilst you can detect a launch from space, its a lot hard to track a missile's trajectory from space (because of the rotation of the earth, the movement of satellites and these missiles move at up to Mach 8) so you need ground based radar and a radar station in Northern Canada will spot the missile way before the US can.

The idea is to shoot the missile down before it gets to US air space and for that, he needs Canada. And guess what ??? Canada knows this !!

One way or another, Trump is going to have to play ball with Canada whether he likes it or not

You are missing the point.
Try researching some real data and stop relying on one or a few news sources that have their own agenda.

America protects Canada. Canada needs America MORE!

America is NOT picking a fight with Canada. Canada like all the other countries has been taking advantage of America for YEARS. Trump is putting a stop to the abusive neighbors actions and attitude.
This world needs America more than America needs the world.
If you do not believe this or comprehend it do some research.
Without America Canada does not exist. Some country will come take over it quickly. China already attempting to do so from within.
Should Alberta leave Canada as Quebec has already attempted, this will change everything in Canada.

Trump is playing ball, his game is so advanced that most experts don't comprehend until they realize the end results.
Are you tracking everything Trump is doing and how often he is succeeding in accomplishing these goals?

Trump's batting average is getting better as the trash is cleaned out. No his is not hitting the ball every swing, who does? When the ball is connected with the results are impressive.

Tariff's are doing exactly what they are being used to do.
The economy is BETTER now than it was last year, even with the tariffs.

America already has a missile defense system. The golden dome is an upgrade.

America provides the most important resource on the planet. Do you know what it is?
Everything America purchases from other countries, America can provide for itself. Either through changing laws so America can produce, mine,
Sure America will need to change up processes. Mainly the corrupt government officials generating millions in personal wealth and billions in corporate wealth.

All at the price of the American people.

It is time this changed and countries start paying THEIR way and stop relying on America while they make themselves rich. And while they allow illegals to enter their country and take over their countries.

[Dorman]

The tariffs are bringing in billions of dollars to the treasury which is great news.

[GlennfromLA]

Trump is threatening more tariffs, he seems to like tariffs a lot.


https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/06/business ... line-trump


" President Donald Trump has threatened new tariffs on any nation supporting “anti-American” policies of the BRICS group of emerging economies, as he announced tariff letters would be sent out to scores of countries from Monday, ahead of a key deadline.

In a Truth Social post on Sunday, Trump said the US would impose an additional 10% tariff on “any country aligning themselves with the Anti-American policies of BRICS” with “no exceptions,” though it was not immediately clear which policies Trump was referring to.

The BRICS group, an acronym of founding members Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, has long stood as a disparate body of countries united by a shared view that global power-sharing should be redistributed to reflect current global economic realities for a “multipolar” as opposed to a West-led world order. "


Is there any country he has not put tariffs?

[TheButcher]

Just saw this on the bbc website.

"The US plans to impose a 25% tax on products entering the country from South Korea and Japan on 1 August, President Donald Trump has said.

He announced the tariffs in a post on social media, sharing letters he said had been sent to leaders of the two countries.

The White House has said it expects to send similar messages to many other countries as the 90-day pause it placed on some of its most aggressive tariffs is set to expire. "


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0vkl31085o

[tacnet]

The tariffs are bringing in billions of dollars to the treasury which is great news.

Yeah.....from the American people !!! Its YOU that's paying the tariffs

[ezdoesitz]

When costs increase the buyer pays more per item, this is old school economic teaching.

[gotonudecom]

The tariffs are bringing in billions of dollars to the treasury which is great news.

Yeah.....from the American people !!! Its YOU that's paying the tariffs

You people are so under educated.

Have no idea how the system works.

Can not see the forest for the trees.

You are not seeing the big picture.

Every time I hear some fool saying who pays tariffs, taxes, fees, etc. I just laugh.

Until you can comprehend that there is a forest and that you are only seeing trees. Try to ask more questions instead of making statements about things you obviously do not comprehend.
Let me go a step further, until you can comprehend the mycelium in the forest, just look at it and keep your comments to yourself.

Ask all the questions you want.

Trump’s tariff strategy slaps high taxes on stuff other countries send to the U.S., like cars or toys, to make them play fair. He wants them to lower their taxes on American goods, like our beef or bikes, so we can sell more overseas. If they don’t, he keeps the tariffs high, which might make things cost more here but protects U.S. jobs.

Trump’s tariffs make things cost more for other countries. When the U.S. puts high tariffs on their exports, like cars or electronics, those countries’ goods become pricier for American buyers, reducing their sales. If they don’t lower their tariffs on U.S. goods in response, their consumers may also pay more for American products due to retaliatory tariffs.

Fair to say that it is not just Americans paying higher prices. but then some of YOU only see a single tree at a time.

Trump’s tariff strategy stems from his belief that other countries unfairly tax U.S. goods while getting rich off trade imbalances and U.S. military protection. He’s said countries like China, the EU, and Japan slap high tariffs—sometimes 10-270%—on American products like cars, whiskey, or dairy, making it hard for U.S. businesses to compete, while the U.S. charges low tariffs, around 1.5%. This, he claims, fuels massive trade deficits—$295 billion with China, $235 billion with the EU in 2024—letting foreign nations “rip off” America, enriching their economies. He also argues that these countries benefit from U.S. military protection—through NATO, bases in Japan, or South Korea—costing billions annually, while they “make a fortune” off U.S. tariffs. By imposing high tariffs, like 25% on their imports, Trump aims to force reciprocal trade deals, lower foreign tariffs, boost U.S. exports, and make countries “pay a fair share” for leveling the economic and security scales.



This is about making other countries pay their fair share.

In the short term, we are barely noticing the increase, because the prices have actually gone DOWN since Biden left, for many popular needed items.
For those that can not remember Trump's first term, we had the greatest economy in history... the stock market went up more than any other president.


The goal was to make other countries drop their tariffs on U.S. goods. In the first term, the USMCA nudged Canada and Mexico a bit, but China and the EU doubled down with their own tariffs.
In 2025, talks with Japan and Vietnam started, but no big wins yet. It’s a standoff—some countries might budge long-term, but they’re not giving up easy profits.

Profits that are already / currently costing American money and jobs.

First-term tariffs brought pain—higher prices, export losses—but also some gains, like manufacturing jobs and trade deals. The jury’s out on whether it’ll balance trade eventually. It depends on forcing better deals, which hasn’t fully happened yet.

We are still in the first few months of the strategy. Too many of you want a magic pill to make every thing better immediately.
Just like in the move the Matrix, the red pill is NOT the easy way but it is the required way to make it better for Americans.
For those of you that want the blue pill, like the traitor, you can step off.

Tariffs are taxes on imported goods and have historically played a key role in helping America. In the early days of the United States, when there were no income taxes, tariffs provided all the revenue for the federal government. This money funded essential operations like infrastructure, military expenses, and public services. Additionally, tariffs protected American industries by making foreign goods more expensive, encouraging people to buy domestically made products. This boosted American manufacturing and created jobs.


Do your best to remember the trees make up the forest and the mycelium benefits the forest in way we can not comprehend.
Stop looking at one or just a few trees and do better and comprehending that there is more to take in than just a couple trees.

[gotonudecom]

Trump's tariff strategy, which involved threatening or imposing tariffs to negotiate favorable trade terms, led to several countries entering into new trade deals with the United States.

Based on this approach, the following countries made new trade deals with Trump due to his tariff strategy:

Mexico and Canada: Through the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), which replaced NAFTA, tariffs—particularly threats against Mexican goods tied to immigration and trade imbalances—played a key role in pushing negotiations forward.
China: The Phase One trade deal emerged from a trade war where Trump imposed significant tariffs on Chinese goods, prompting China to agree to purchase more U.S. products and address intellectual property issues.
South Korea: The renegotiated Korea-U.S. Free Trade Agreement (KORUS) was influenced by tariffs, including those on steel and aluminum, as well as pressure to adjust trade terms like auto exports.
Japan: A bilateral trade agreement in 2019, which reduced tariffs on agricultural and industrial goods, was shaped by the looming threat of U.S. auto tariffs, encouraging Japan to reach a deal.
These countries—Mexico, Canada, China, South Korea, and Japan—signed new trade agreements with the U.S., driven by Trump’s tariff strategy as a negotiation tactic.

[gotonudecom]

China is the country most explicitly refusing to negotiate trade deals with the United States in 2025.
Great, NO ONE should do business with China. They are not anyone's friend. If you listen to what they say, you know this.

Japan and India are reported to be negotiating, though they have resisted deals with predetermined cutoff dates, suggesting conditional engagement rather than outright refusal.

The EU is mentioned as yielding to certain tariff agreements in some reports, indicating active negotiation.

Canada is noted as being exempt from some tariffs and likely to restart discussions, pointing to continued engagement rather than refusal.

What this means is that the strategy is working, even if too slow for some of you, it is working to slowly make the trading between America and other countries fair.
If you want American's to continue to fund world peace or at least not drop bombs on your country, how about doing business fair?? Sound FAIR?

I would rather pay more for some products and the money stay in America than continue to pay other countries for their products and continue to pay for our military to protect
those countries. Especially, when other countries are refusing to cover the military cost to protect themselves.

[gotonudecom]

Military Spending Comparison (2023)

Country Military Spending (billion USD) % of U.S. Spending U.S. Spending Multiple

United States 877 100% 1.0
China 292 33.3% 3.0
Russia 86 9.8% 10.2
India 81 9.2% 10.8
Saudi Arabia 75 8.5% 11.7
United Kingdom 68 7.8% 12.9
Germany 56 6.4% 15.7
France 54 6.2% 16.2
South Korea 46 5.2% 19.1
Australia 32 3.6% 27.4
Canada 27 3.1% 32.5
Global Total 2,240


Source: Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), 2023 data.
Globally, the U.S. accounts for about 39.2% of the total military expenditure of $2,240 billion.

The U.S. spends $877 billion, which exceeds the combined spending of the next ten countries listed ($817 billion)

Who do you think is currently paying for all this military?
How much more does that make our products cost?
How much more does that mean Americans pay in taxes?
Why should American pay all this to keep others safe and so they can tax/tariff America in much higher amounts than America does them?

How do you think America became competent enough to do this?
Certainly it was not by doing what Bidden did the last 4 years.
Certainly it was not what Obama did his 8 years.
Let's not even discuss the Bush years. Either of them.
Clint success was actually from Reagan's success and the evolution of the Internet in the 90s.

[gotonudecom]

In the 19th century, tariffs funded up to 90% of U.S. federal spending, building infrastructure without income taxes. In 2020, tariffs generated $80 billion, a fraction of the $4.4 trillion budget. Increasing tariffs could raise revenue—potentially $200–$300 billion annually with 25% rates—reducing reliance on borrowing to cover deficits ($1.8 trillion in 2025) [U.S. Customs Service, CBO].

The U.S. goods trade deficit was $918 billion in 2024, draining domestic wealth. Tariffs make imports costlier, encouraging Americans to buy U.S.-made goods, which could shrink the deficit. For example, first-term tariffs cut the China deficit by $36 billion (2016–2020). A smaller deficit keeps dollars at home, easing debt pressure [U.S. Census Bureau]

Tariffs protect sectors like steel and manufacturing. From 2017–2019, 450,000 manufacturing jobs were added, partly due to tariffs shielding U.S. producers. Reviving industries boosts tax revenue and reduces welfare spending, helping manage debt [Bureau of Labor Statistics].

The U.S. is the world’s largest consumer market ($21 trillion GDP). Foreign countries rely on access to it. Tariffs pressure nations like China (7.5% tariffs on U.S. goods) or the EU (5%) to lower barriers, as seen with Japan’s 2019 deal. Fairer trade terms increase U.S. exports ($2.5 trillion in 2024), strengthening the economy and tax base [World Bank, USTR].

Tariffs encourage domestic production, reducing reliance on imports (e.g., 60% of semiconductors from Asia). This strengthens national security and economic resilience, saving costs from potential supply chain crises, which indirectly supports fiscal stability [U.S. Department of Commerce].

The U.S. spends $877 billion on defense (2023), protecting allies like Canada (1.29% GDP on defense) and Japan (1%). Tariffs could force richer allies to lower trade barriers or contribute more to defense, easing U.S. debt burdens tied to global security [SIPRI].

Corporations often raise prices during crises (e.g., $1,277 extra per household from 2018 tariffs). Tariffs expose this greed, pushing public demand for domestic alternatives. Long-term, this could foster competitive U.S. industries, increasing GDP and tax revenue to tackle debt.

[gotonudecom]

America’s debt grows because spending (e.g., $6.8 trillion budget in 2025) outpaces revenue ($5 trillion). Tariffs offer a direct revenue stream, protect jobs, and reduce trade deficits, all of which strengthen the economy. Historically, tariffs funded a debt-free government. If trade deals lower foreign tariffs, U.S. exports grow, further boosting revenue. Short-term price hikes are a risk, but long-term gains could stabilize finances, making the strategy appealing for a debt-laden nation.

Look at Historical Success: Study how tariffs built America’s early economy (1800s) without debt.
Watch if 2025 deals with Japan or Vietnam increase U.S. exports, signaling success.

Check if tariff revenue reduces annual deficits over time (CBO projections).

This frames tariffs as a practical tool for economic strength, not just a trade tactic, helping everyday people see the big picture.
Remember the mycelium?


My fingers are tired and I really hate editing this to make it easier for the slow people.
hope you enjoy, actually read it, learn something and possible open your mind to the mycelium beneath your feet.

[britporn_mike]

Good news is another delay in implementing the tariffs has taken effect.

"Donald Trump's White House had grandly promised "90 deals in 90 days" after partially pausing the process of levying what the US president called "reciprocal" tariffs.

In reality, there won't even be nine deals done by the time we reach Trump's first cut-off date on 9 July.

The revealing thing here, the poker "tell" if you like, is the extension of the deadline from Wednesday until 1 August, with a possibility of further extensions - or delays - to come.

From the US perspective, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says all focus has been on the 18 countries that are responsible for 95% of America's trade deficit.

The jaunty letters being sent from the US to its trading partners this week are simply a reincarnation of that infamous White House "Liberation Day" blue board. "

>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c628nk51364o