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Post by TheButcher » May 15th, 2025, 9:42 am

Just an update I read on the BBC website just now that JLR jaguar cars parent company has no plans to build Jags in the US.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce81x8ke8pgo

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Post by gotonudecom » May 15th, 2025, 12:30 pm

tacnet wrote: ↑
May 12th, 2025, 2:22 pm
TheButcher wrote: ↑
May 12th, 2025, 12:44 pm
jag wrote: ↑
May 12th, 2025, 7:15 am
Good news the USA and China have reached an understanding to reduce tariffs by 100% for 90 days


https://timesofmalta.com/article/us-chi ... ay.1109555
Brilliant screw up the markets, watch hundreds of billions wiped out, throw businesses into a panic how to deal with supply chain issues in the short and long term, then roll back the tariffs. :roll:
Exactly. What happened to bringing all those manufacturing jobs back to the USA ???
It has barely been 100 days, what they magically going to PUFF into existence?

Your expectations are ridiculous.
These things take time.

The manufacturing jobs did not vanish the day the government made it legal to move them to China. it took YEARS.

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Post by gotonudecom » May 15th, 2025, 12:35 pm

tacnet wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2025, 2:21 pm
Trump got nothing for this climb down. China has not made any concessions

All that happened is Trump put the tariffs on, China fought back and so Trump took the tariffs off. In the meantime he caused chaos on the stock markets, businesses face huge uncertainty and the public don't know which way to turn
I dont know where you get your information, but you are way behind.

In May 2025, the U.S. and China agreed to a 90-day tariff reduction, with U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports dropping from 145% to 30% and Chinese tariffs on U.S. goods falling from 125% to 10%, effective May 14. This follows trade talks in Geneva aimed at de-escalating the trade war, with further negotiations planned.

During Biden China tariff were as much as 4 to 5 times the American Tariffs.
Now they are even.

This was the point of the Trump plan and it is working.

Again, why DO YOU want to finance the RED ARMY?

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Post by tacnet » May 15th, 2025, 9:31 pm

gotonudecom wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2025, 12:35 pm
tacnet wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2025, 2:21 pm
Trump got nothing for this climb down. China has not made any concessions

All that happened is Trump put the tariffs on, China fought back and so Trump took the tariffs off. In the meantime he caused chaos on the stock markets, businesses face huge uncertainty and the public don't know which way to turn
I dont know where you get your information, but you are way behind.

In May 2025, the U.S. and China agreed to a 90-day tariff reduction, with U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports dropping from 145% to 30% and Chinese tariffs on U.S. goods falling from 125% to 10%, effective May 14. This follows trade talks in Geneva aimed at de-escalating the trade war, with further negotiations planned.

During Biden China tariff were as much as 4 to 5 times the American Tariffs.
Now they are even.

This was the point of the Trump plan and it is working.

Again, why DO YOU want to finance the RED ARMY?
During Biden's presidency, US tariffs against China were 19.3%. During the same time frame, Chinese tariffs against the U.S. were 21.2% (ie only 1.9% higher than the U.S). While China did impose higher tariffs on goods from the United States, it did so on fewer products. Only 50.3% of U.S. exports were subject to Chinese tariffs whereas 66.6% of Chinese exports were subjected to U.S. tariffs until President Trump changed it to 100% in early February

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Post by tacnet » May 15th, 2025, 9:31 pm

Wallmart have just announced that prices are going up this month because of tariffs - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd62427ypw6o

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Post by TheButcher » May 16th, 2025, 10:56 am

tacnet wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2025, 9:31 pm
Wallmart have just announced that prices are going up this month because of tariffs - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd62427ypw6o
Not for price increases but wait until companies stop importing Chinese products because of the sanctions and tariffs, that will create ever more problems and inflation.

The rich don't care it toilet paper is $20 a package or $25 it's always the lower income families who suffer. I was listening toa. podcast earlier in the week, this woman was crying how the cost of cosmetics she buys have gone up over the past year. The interviewer asked her what she makes and she said I am an accountant making $230K a year and her husband is a Computer technology manager at some fancy health care company making $250K a year.

You really think the man and wife working for $60K between them a year care about the cost of cosmetics, they care about rent, food, prescription drugs and medical bills.

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Post by tacnet » May 16th, 2025, 7:10 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2025, 10:56 am
tacnet wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2025, 9:31 pm
Wallmart have just announced that prices are going up this month because of tariffs - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd62427ypw6o
You really think the man and wife working for $60K between them a year care about the cost of cosmetics, they care about rent, food, prescription drugs and medical bills.
Yep too true. Tariffs will hit the poorest more because they spend a bigger percentage of their income on things like rent, food, medicine etc

I had to laugh when I saw Trump the other day saying "instead of having 30 dolls, little girls could just have 3 or 4 dolls"......says the multi billionaire with his gold toilets and private jet :lol: :lol:

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Post by badkitty » May 17th, 2025, 11:37 am

'Trump tells Walmart to ‘eat the tariffs’ as retailer expects prices to increase '


https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/17/business ... es-tariffs




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Post by LuKenGas » May 18th, 2025, 7:45 am

badkitty wrote: ↑
May 17th, 2025, 11:37 am
'Trump tells Walmart to ‘eat the tariffs’ as retailer expects prices to increase '


https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/17/business ... es-tariffs
Why is he telling Walmart how to run their company




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Post by gotonudecom » May 19th, 2025, 12:24 pm

first you are putting out averages?
second you are only telling a very small portion of the story?
third you are leaving out key parts of the strategy, like looking at one piece of a puzzle and then guessing what the puzzle looks like.
fourth, biggest tax cuts in history are scheduled for the poor to offset the increase in prices.
fifth, corporations ALWAYS take any advantage/excuse they can to increase profits, but I doubt any of you actually look at their profit statements.
sixth, most of you seem to only read the news that agrees with you

seventh China steals IP (intellectual property) and no one can do anything about except the president.
eighth every president since Reagan and stated they would do what Trump is doing. every single one.
they were either lying to get votes or did not have the support to do it, because the billionaires that pay them to be in office did not comprehend or did not know how to deal with it.
ninth big picture, fuck China, the rest of the world, the important places are working out great deals with America. how much is 1.9% of trillions of dollars? how many businesses could not sell to China at all because of the tariffs from China, the poor would rather NOT fund the red army, because then more of their tax money has to go for defense spending. so don't talk to me about what the poor do in this country, many go die in wars, because people like you are too cheap to spend a few dollars in the short term to fix these long term problems. China is a long term problem, their goals are long term world domination, period. America long terms goals are peace and commerce. Might not be the military industrial complexes goals, but peace and friendship is the goal of the America people. American have much more control over their government than ANY/ALL other countries.
EU is putting people in jail for social media posts of their favorite song's lyrics.

America's constitution is the OLDEST in existence.
It is the only constitution that limits the power of the government and not the people.

This plan is a long term plan to make America and its allies NOT be reliant on China. Mark my words, the second China can use their power against others they will, oh wait they started doing that, forever.

China began imposing rare earth metal restrictions in July 2023, with export controls on gallium and germanium. These were expanded in 2024, with comprehensive regulations effective October 1, 2024

I read above about tariffs, big pictures people please, the above was not a tariff, it was just a restriction. Rarely do I read or hear about this in a tariff conversation. The tariff are a means to an end. They counter things like this.
When this works, I believe that America will see the light, at least enough of them to keep good people in the government.
Things take time and too many of you want a single pill to keep you from being FAT, but you also want to eat cake every day.

America is tightening its belt to make the world a better place. Just like this country has been doing for my entire life.

Why is Trump telling Walmart to eat the Tariff? are you serious? Walmart is one of the MOST profitable companies in the world. Sam Walton would certainly have eaten the tariffs, period.
Walmart's net income grew steadily from about 5 billion USD in 2000 to a peak of around 17 billion USD in 2013. It experienced a notable drop in 2018 and 2019 (to approximately 10 billion and 7 billion USD, respectively) due to specific events like asset sales and tax changes, but has since recovered, reaching around 16 billion USD in 2024.

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Post by gotonudecom » May 19th, 2025, 12:29 pm

Year
Net Income (billion USD)



2000
5


2001
6


2002
7


2003
8


2004
9


2005
10


2006
11


2007
11


2008
13


2009
13


2010
14


2011
15


2012
16


2013
17


2014
16


2015
16


2016
15


2017
14


2018
10


2019
7


2020
15


2021
14


2022
14


2023
12


2024
16


I think Walmart can afford to help the world out with a few million dollars over a few months.

A billion dollars a month is a lot of money to make. Especially when we all know that the poor are the number one customer of Walmart.
people keep typing in about the poor getting hurt by the tariff, but rarely to I read anyone crying about corporations and their multiple yachts hurting the poor by keeping the prices so high that people can not afford to buy food.

Then Walmart sells them poison food. FUCK Walmart.

Big changes going on in America. At least on paper they are going the best direction for the poor.

America needs to stop the growth of their deficit and the tariffs will do this quickly.

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Post by gotonudecom » May 19th, 2025, 12:38 pm

You typed in 1.9% which is an average of the tariff and only under educated use averages to make decisions.

You need more information than just and average.

Precise figures for total U.S. payments to foreign governments via tariffs are not explicitly detailed in available data, as these costs are embedded in the price of exported goods and vary by product and country. However, estimates suggest U.S. companies paid over $200 billion annually in value-added taxes (VAT) and tariffs to foreign governments, notably the EU, which acted as a significant trade barrier. Specific examples include
EU: Generated ~$28 billion from a 2.7% tariff on U.S. whiskey and bikes.
Canada: Imposed a 270% tariff on U.S. dairy, costing ~$200 billion.
India: Collected ~$7 billion from tariffs on U.S. goods.
China: Earned billions on U.S. soybeans, though exact figures vary


Remember or learn this, it is NOT just about TARIFFs, The EU taxes (VAT) which is NOT considered a TARIFF.



That is a lot of American money going to other countries due to THEIR unfair trade practices.

These costs were borne by U.S. exporters and consumers through higher prices or reduced market access, exacerbating the trade deficit. The lack of reciprocity in tariff rates was a key driver for Trump’s push for "reciprocal tariffs" to level the playing field

In 2024, the U.S. had an overall goods trade deficit of $918.4 billion, with significant deficits including China ($295.4 billion), the EU ($235.6 billion), Mexico ($171.8 billion), and Vietnam ($123.5 billion). This reflects the difference between U.S. imports and exports, not directly tariff payments, but it sets the stage for understanding trade imbalances.


Why should America pay to do business with other countries?

more averages for you limited thinking people.
Before Trump’s 2025 tariff policies, U.S. tariffs on imports were relatively low, averaging ~1.5% overall, with specific rates like ~3.8% on China and ~1.47% on the EU. In contrast, major trading partners imposed higher tariffs on U.S. goods: China (~7.5%), EU (~5%), Canada (~4.2%), Mexico (~7%), Japan (~2.5%), and the UK (~2.8%). This disparity meant U.S. exporters faced higher barriers, contributing to the trade deficit

When you read as averages it does not seem so bad... But when the results are over a trillion dollars per year, that very slight difference in averages, generates a HUGE profit for the RED fucking ARMY to be built.

Then you should consider if China is buying American politicians, and they are, then how many politicians from other countries are being bought and paid for. All with the profit from these TARIFFS on America.

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Post by gotonudecom » May 19th, 2025, 2:01 pm

This is an example of why Trump imposed


Before 2025, Japan imposed an average tariff of ~2.5% on U.S. goods, notably higher than the U.S.’s ~1.5% on Japanese imports. Key sectors like agriculture (e.g., beef, pork) faced tariffs up to 38.5%, contributing to the U.S.’s $56 billion trade deficit with Japan in 2024.


Following Trump’s 2025 tariff announcements (e.g., 25% on autos), Japan moved quickly to negotiate. By April 2025, posts on X indicated Japan was nearing a general trade agreement to avoid massive U.S. tariffs, focusing on reciprocal tariff reductions


Japan’s negotiations aim to lower its tariffs on U.S. goods (e.g., agriculture, industrial products) in exchange for U.S. tariff relief, potentially reducing the trade deficit and boosting U.S. exports. No specific tariff cuts finalized yet, but talks signal progress toward reciprocity


this is the result planned by Trump.
Bringing these countries to the table to negotiate fair deals. This plan is working. In the long run, the prices and profit will be better for everyone in the world.


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Post by Boner » May 20th, 2025, 2:35 pm

gotonudecom wrote: ↑
May 19th, 2025, 2:01 pm
This is an example of why Trump imposed


Before 2025, Japan imposed an average tariff of ~2.5% on U.S. goods, notably higher than the U.S.’s ~1.5% on Japanese imports. Key sectors like agriculture (e.g., beef, pork) faced tariffs up to 38.5%, contributing to the U.S.’s $56 billion trade deficit with Japan in 2024.


Following Trump’s 2025 tariff announcements (e.g., 25% on autos), Japan moved quickly to negotiate. By April 2025, posts on X indicated Japan was nearing a general trade agreement to avoid massive U.S. tariffs, focusing on reciprocal tariff reductions


Japan’s negotiations aim to lower its tariffs on U.S. goods (e.g., agriculture, industrial products) in exchange for U.S. tariff relief, potentially reducing the trade deficit and boosting U.S. exports. No specific tariff cuts finalized yet, but talks signal progress toward reciprocity


this is the result planned by Trump.
Bringing these countries to the table to negotiate fair deals. This plan is working. In the long run, the prices and profit will be better for everyone in the world.
The balls some of our allies have and we make sure they are safe. 3xwe21




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