[NEWS] Ukraine Can’t Win the War

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Post by AlexO » March 8th, 2025, 9:36 am

tacnet wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 9:29 am
AlexO wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 9:13 am
tacnet wrote: ↑
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Trump has now taken away the intelligence that provided Ukraine with an early warning system against Russian missile attacks. So in effect, Ukraine is now totally blind and unable to protect their civilians against missile and drone attacks. As a result, Putin has stepped up his attacks and is now launching waves of missiles and drones against civilian targets (infrastructure, energy etc). A lot of Ukrainian citizens are going to die as a result of this. Trump is effectively holding Ukraine down and inviting Putin to come and kick them in the teeth

How can allowing more Ukrainian civilians to die be classed as a step towards peace ???
Trump is putting the thumb screws on Zelensky to come make peace it's the only way to make that goon stop fighting.
Zelensky wants peace more than Putin does. He's even offered to resign if it means a lasting peace for his country (ie one with security guarantees). I don's see Putin making ANY gestures towards peace and Trump isn't putting any pressure on him to do so. Quite simply, Trump is turning against all his allies (not just Ukraine but also Europe, UK, Canada, Japan, Australia and all the other countries supporting Ukraine) whilst cozying up to a ruthless dictator like Putin

Did you see that both Germany and Poland are now considering building their own nuclear bombs because they can no longer rely on the USA nuclear deterrent ? How is that a step towards world peace ?
Listen to president Trump yesterday. He says Russia wants peace and is working towards it and Ukraine is not.


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Post by tacnet » March 8th, 2025, 9:57 am

AlexO wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 9:36 am
tacnet wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 9:29 am
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Trump is putting the thumb screws on Zelensky to come make peace it's the only way to make that goon stop fighting.
Zelensky wants peace more than Putin does. He's even offered to resign if it means a lasting peace for his country (ie one with security guarantees). I don's see Putin making ANY gestures towards peace and Trump isn't putting any pressure on him to do so. Quite simply, Trump is turning against all his allies (not just Ukraine but also Europe, UK, Canada, Japan, Australia and all the other countries supporting Ukraine) whilst cozying up to a ruthless dictator like Putin

Did you see that both Germany and Poland are now considering building their own nuclear bombs because they can no longer rely on the USA nuclear deterrent ? How is that a step towards world peace ?
Listen to president Trump yesterday. He says Russia wants peace and is working towards it and Ukraine is not.


Im sorry but I don't believe a word Trump says. He is simply trying to carry favor with Putin. If Putin want's peace, then why is he going all our to kill as many Ukrainians as he can this last week ? Zelensky came to the oval office last week to sign that rare earth minerals deal in the hope to end the war and yet Trump kicked him out !

And why is Trump now considering deporting Ukrainians from the USA back to Ukraine ?? Clearly their country is at war and their lives are in danger if they are deported ???

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Post by NSWDave » March 8th, 2025, 1:29 pm

Not to ruffle any feathers here but Zelensky fucked up in Washington with Trump.




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Post by tacnet » March 8th, 2025, 2:47 pm

NSWDave wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 1:29 pm
Not to ruffle any feathers here but Zelensky fucked up in Washington with Trump.
I agree he didn't handle it well but it was obviously a setup. These press briefings normally last about 5 minutes and then they go behind closed doors but Trump kept this one going for 50 minutes. First there was that reporter asking him why he didn't wear a suit and the JD Vance laying into him

Can you imagine if President Trump came over to Europe and we treated him like that ??? You guys would be screaming for our blood and rightly so.

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Post by BrasSmonkey » March 8th, 2025, 4:54 pm

Tac... he is not getting more shit for war!!! he gets to the table and makes a deal!!!
tacnet wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 2:47 pm
NSWDave wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 1:29 pm
Not to ruffle any feathers here but Zelensky fucked up in Washington with Trump.
I agree he didn't handle it well but it was obviously a setup. These press briefings normally last about 5 minutes and then they go behind closed doors but Trump kept this one going for 50 minutes. First there was that reporter asking him why he didn't wear a suit and the JD Vance laying into him

Can you imagine if President Trump came over to Europe and we treated him like that ??? You guys would be screaming for our blood and rightly so.
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Post by tacnet » March 8th, 2025, 9:09 pm

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 4:54 pm
Tac... he is not getting more shit for war!!! he gets to the table and makes a deal!!!
tacnet wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 2:47 pm
NSWDave wrote: ↑
March 8th, 2025, 1:29 pm
Not to ruffle any feathers here but Zelensky fucked up in Washington with Trump.
I agree he didn't handle it well but it was obviously a setup. These press briefings normally last about 5 minutes and then they go behind closed doors but Trump kept this one going for 50 minutes. First there was that reporter asking him why he didn't wear a suit and the JD Vance laying into him

Can you imagine if President Trump came over to Europe and we treated him like that ??? You guys would be screaming for our blood and rightly so.
He's not asking for shit for war. He's asking to be able to defend himself against a brutal invasion. And whether you like it or not, that's what MOST AMERICANS WANT TOO

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Post by pornmafia » March 9th, 2025, 8:54 am

What happened to all the pundits on tv saying Russia was losing, Russia was out of ammo, Russia was out of troops, Russia was taking chips out of microwaves to build weapons because they had no chips......so much for the $350 Billion we gave to Ukraine and the other $100 Billion Europe lent them.




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Post by fetishnews » March 9th, 2025, 11:08 pm

tacnet wrote: ↑
March 7th, 2025, 4:08 pm
Trump has now taken away the intelligence that provided Ukraine with an early warning system against Russian missile attacks. So in effect, Ukraine is now totally blind and unable to protect their civilians against missile and drone attacks. As a result, Putin has stepped up his attacks and is now launching waves of missiles and drones against civilian targets (infrastructure, energy etc). A lot of Ukrainian citizens are going to die as a result of this. Trump is effectively holding Ukraine down and inviting Putin to come and kick them in the teeth

How can allowing more Ukrainian civilians to die be classed as a step towards peace ???

He seems to have changed his mind on it and it seems they never really stopped sharing intel. This and tariffs on Canada and Mexico on again off again. You see a pattern?

"President Donald Trump said the U.S. has "just about" lifted the intelligence pause on Ukraine, adding that his administration has to do anything it can to get Ukrainians serious about making a deal to end the war with Russia.

"You know, I say they don’t have the cards. Nobody really has the cards," Trump told reporters during a gaggle on Air Force One on Sunday evening. "Russia doesn’t have the cards…What you have to do is you have to make a deal, and you have to stop the killing. It’s a senseless war, and we’re going to get it stopped."

On Friday, Fox News Digital learned from three sources familiar with the situation that the U.S. was continuing to share some defensive intelligence with Ukraine to protect it against incoming Russian strikes."

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Post by TheButcher » March 10th, 2025, 1:10 pm

The definition of insanity is if you repeat the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Breaking news for Sen Graham, Russia is the most sanctioned country in the history of the world and those very sanctions have made it a stronger country in terms of the economy, financial sector, industry, manufacturing, economy......

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"Republican Senator Lindsey Graham will introduce a bill to impose new sanctions on Russia next week. These sanctions will target the banking and energy sectors, reports NBC News.

In an interview with Fox News, he explained that these measures are necessary to bring the Russian side to the negotiating table to discuss a ceasefire."

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Post by BrasSmonkey » March 10th, 2025, 5:33 pm

they need to hit the ukraine hard! now!
Russian forces take three new settlements in drive to oust Ukrainian forces in Kursk

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Post by Ricks-Cams » March 10th, 2025, 6:30 pm

This my first post in this war thread, you know why it is my first post. I do not care who wins who loses this war, it is not close to us, it is not my problem, fuck them all let them kill each other, just stop sending my tax dollars to the fuckers.
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Post by ezdoesitz » March 11th, 2025, 7:07 am

The Ukrainians are meeting us in Saudi Arabia for talks today, hopefully a break thru can be agreed on so the war ends


https://www.foxnews.com/world/rubio-say ... ne-meeting




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Post by gspotman » March 11th, 2025, 8:00 am

ezdoesitz wrote: ↑
March 11th, 2025, 7:07 am
The Ukrainians are meeting us in Saudi Arabia for talks today, hopefully a break thru can be agreed on so the war ends


https://www.foxnews.com/world/rubio-say ... ne-meeting


At the same time Ukraine launched it's biggest drone attack on Moscow. This is not going to bring the Russians to the peace table.
"At least 91 drones downed around Moscow, 337 overall in Russia
Two killed by debris at meat warehouse, 18 others injured"
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 025-03-11/
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Post by tacnet » March 11th, 2025, 1:02 pm

gspotman wrote: ↑
March 11th, 2025, 8:00 am
ezdoesitz wrote: ↑
March 11th, 2025, 7:07 am
The Ukrainians are meeting us in Saudi Arabia for talks today, hopefully a break thru can be agreed on so the war ends


https://www.foxnews.com/world/rubio-say ... ne-meeting


At the same time Ukraine launched it's biggest drone attack on Moscow. This is not going to bring the Russians to the peace table.
"At least 91 drones downed around Moscow, 337 overall in Russia
Two killed by debris at meat warehouse, 18 others injured"
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 025-03-11/
That's EXACTLY what Russia has been doing to Ukraine since the start of these "peace talks". As soon as they knew Trump had cut off the aid, they started bombing the hell out of Ukraine.

Hardly the actions of someone who is trying to negotiate a peace treaty

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Post by TheButcher » March 11th, 2025, 2:22 pm

After the meeting in Saudi Arabia the US will restart intelligence sharing and military aid right away.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/world/uk ... index.html



The proposal is for an immediate cease fire to start negotiating an end to the war. I can not see the Russians buying that one.

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