[NEWS] Ukraine Can’t Win the War

[TheButcher]

RFK Jr and Donald trump Jr wrote an op ed

Title "Negotiate with Moscow to end the Ukraine war and prevent nuclear devastation"

Read it here

https://thehill.com/opinion/internation ... vastation/



See this paragraph. "Imagine if Russia were providing another country with missiles, training and targeting information to strike deep into American territory. The U.S. would never tolerate it. We shouldn’t expect Russia to tolerate it either.

This game of nuclear “chicken” has gone far enough. There is no remaining step between firing U.S. missiles deep into Russian territory and a nuclear exchange. We cannot get any closer to the brink than this."


These two gentleman get the reality and seriousness of this situation. I really think Donald trump Jr will run for office very soon and possibly president in due course.

[AlexO]

Nothing will happen until after the election, this can is going to be kicked down the road until January.

[vblogger]

What use is Ukraine to us they are on the other side of the world.

[vroomlinks]

Nothing will happen until after the election, this can is going to be kicked down the road until January.

Trump will end this war.

[24alex]

Zelensky has a plan to win, let's see what that is all about.

[tacnet]

Nothing will happen until after the election, this can is going to be kicked down the road until January.

Trump will end this war.

Yeah by stabbing Ukraine and all the other countries that support them in the back !!

How do you think the rest of NATO is going to react when they realize all their billions of dollars spent in supporting Ukraine has all been for nothing ??? And its not just NATO, there's other countries like Japan, Australia and others that are all invested heavily in stopping Putin. These are all American allies that Trump is prepared to betray just so he can carry favor with Putin !!

And it wont stop there. Putin made it clear in his 2021 essay that not only is Ukraine part of Russia but also the Baltic states and even parts of Finland belong to Russia. With NATO divided by Trump, there would be nothing to stop him rolling into those countries

And lets not forget China. America would have to stand alone against any threat from China because the rest of NATO would NOT stand with Trump after this

Believe me, the world will be a much more dangerous place if Trump gets elected.

[AlexO]

Nothing will happen until after the election, this can is going to be kicked down the road until January.

Trump will end this war.

Yeah by stabbing Ukraine and all the other countries that support them in the back !!

How do you think the rest of NATO is going to react when they realize all their billions of dollars spent in supporting Ukraine has all been for nothing ??? And its not just NATO, there's other countries like Japan, Australia and others that are all invested heavily in stopping Putin. These are all American allies that Trump is prepared to betray just so he can carry favor with Putin !!

And it wont stop there. Putin made it clear in his 2021 essay that not only is Ukraine part of Russia but also the Baltic states and even parts of Finland belong to Russia. With NATO divided by Trump, there would be nothing to stop him rolling into those countries

And lets not forget China. America would have to stand alone against any threat from China because the rest of NATO would NOT stand with Trump after this

Believe me, the world will be a much more dangerous place if Trump gets elected.

No way Jose. Trump is the one who wants to end the war. What is more dangerous getting into a hot war with Russia over Ukraine or stopping the war.

[BrasSmonkey]

tac thinks nuclear war is worth it... no way the ukraine defeats russia.

[jag]

tac thinks nuclear war is worth it... no way the ukraine defeats russia.

where has he said that?

[tacnet]

So what you are saying is that we should back down to anybody who threatens to use nuclear weapons ?????

First of all, there is no way that Russia will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Its been made quite clear to Putin by both NATO AND CHINA that if he drops a single nuclear weapon, then NATO will attack the base the launched it and China will no longer support Russia. A second nuclear weapon would mean NATO forces entering Ukraine. Effectively if Putin goes nuclear, he will be signing his own death warrant.

Infact we are so sure that Putin will not go nuclear (and bear in mind we monitor his nuclear forces VERY closely) that NATO's nuclear stance has not changed one bit since this war started.

As I have said many times before, this is NOT just about Ukraine. Its about whether we will allow a brutal dictator like Putin to invade an annex one of our allies. And lets not forget who is supporting Russia....North Korea and Iran. Can you imagine the fallout if the west is seen to back down to this bunch of dictators ????

That is what Trump is proposing to do !!

[TheButcher]

So what you are saying is that we should back down to anybody who threatens to use nuclear weapons ?????

First of all, there is no way that Russia will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Its been made quite clear to Putin by both NATO AND CHINA that if he drops a single nuclear weapon, then NATO will attack the base the launched it and China will no longer support Russia. A second nuclear weapon would mean NATO forces entering Ukraine. Effectively if Putin goes nuclear, he will be signing his own death warrant.

Infact we are so sure that Putin will not go nuclear (and bear in mind we monitor his nuclear forces VERY closely) that NATO's nuclear stance has not changed one bit since this war started.

As I have said many times before, this is NOT just about Ukraine. Its about whether we will allow a brutal dictator like Putin to invade an annex one of our allies. And lets not forget who is supporting Russia....North Korea and Iran. Can you imagine the fallout if the west is seen to back down to this bunch of dictators ????

That is what Trump is proposing to do !!

I just saw this


"Putin issues nuclear warning to the West over strikes on Russia from Ukraine"

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pu ... 024-09-25/


Obviously none of us want a nuclear war but Putin understands Russia can not fight 32 NATO countries in a conventional war so he'll go nuclear.




Daniel Davis is a sensible and logical guy watch his clip.

It is time to bring this war to an end.

[tacnet]

So what you are saying is that we should back down to anybody who threatens to use nuclear weapons ?????

First of all, there is no way that Russia will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Its been made quite clear to Putin by both NATO AND CHINA that if he drops a single nuclear weapon, then NATO will attack the base the launched it and China will no longer support Russia. A second nuclear weapon would mean NATO forces entering Ukraine. Effectively if Putin goes nuclear, he will be signing his own death warrant.

Infact we are so sure that Putin will not go nuclear (and bear in mind we monitor his nuclear forces VERY closely) that NATO's nuclear stance has not changed one bit since this war started.

As I have said many times before, this is NOT just about Ukraine. Its about whether we will allow a brutal dictator like Putin to invade an annex one of our allies. And lets not forget who is supporting Russia....North Korea and Iran. Can you imagine the fallout if the west is seen to back down to this bunch of dictators ????

That is what Trump is proposing to do !!

I just saw this


"Putin issues nuclear warning to the West over strikes on Russia from Ukraine"

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pu ... 024-09-25/


Obviously none of us want a nuclear war but Putin understands Russia can not fight 32 NATO countries in a conventional war so he'll go nuclear.




Daniel Davis is a sensible and logical guy watch his clip.

It is time to bring this war to an end.

Of course he is going to say that. He has been threatening to use nuclear weapons at every stage of this war. First if we supplied long range missiles, then if we supplied tanks, then if we supplied jets etc etc but he knows that if he crosses that line, that would be the end of him. The whole world would condemn him including China

We should NOT give in to dictators like Putin just because they threaten us with nuclear weapons. China has nukes, should we back down to them too ??? And what if Putin supplies North Korea and Iran with nukes (if he's not already), should we back down to those countries as well ???

Your right, nobody wants a nuclear war which is exactly why Putin keeps threatening one and we cannot let him get away with it

[BrasSmonkey]

cut off the fucking funds to the ukraine and get these fuckers to meet! it has to end! you are full of it thinking china would turn away from it's biggest ally. like saying the usa would turn away from the uk...

So what you are saying is that we should back down to anybody who threatens to use nuclear weapons ?????

First of all, there is no way that Russia will use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Its been made quite clear to Putin by both NATO AND CHINA that if he drops a single nuclear weapon, then NATO will attack the base the launched it and China will no longer support Russia. A second nuclear weapon would mean NATO forces entering Ukraine. Effectively if Putin goes nuclear, he will be signing his own death warrant.

Infact we are so sure that Putin will not go nuclear (and bear in mind we monitor his nuclear forces VERY closely) that NATO's nuclear stance has not changed one bit since this war started.

As I have said many times before, this is NOT just about Ukraine. Its about whether we will allow a brutal dictator like Putin to invade an annex one of our allies. And lets not forget who is supporting Russia....North Korea and Iran. Can you imagine the fallout if the west is seen to back down to this bunch of dictators ????

That is what Trump is proposing to do !!

I just saw this


"Putin issues nuclear warning to the West over strikes on Russia from Ukraine"

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pu ... 024-09-25/


Obviously none of us want a nuclear war but Putin understands Russia can not fight 32 NATO countries in a conventional war so he'll go nuclear.




Daniel Davis is a sensible and logical guy watch his clip.

It is time to bring this war to an end.

Of course he is going to say that. He has been threatening to use nuclear weapons at every stage of this war. First if we supplied long range missiles, then if we supplied tanks, then if we supplied jets etc etc but he knows that if he crosses that line, that would be the end of him. The whole world would condemn him including China

We should NOT give in to dictators like Putin just because they threaten us with nuclear weapons. China has nukes, should we back down to them too ??? And what if Putin supplies North Korea and Iran with nukes (if he's not already), should we back down to those countries as well ???

Your right, nobody wants a nuclear war which is exactly why Putin keeps threatening one and we cannot let him get away with it

[vroomlinks]

Trump to meet Zelensky I thought he was not going to give him the time of day.

[killah]

We are sending so much money and weapons it scares me what if we have to get in a war with China which is our biggest threat.