[NON-BUSINESS] Is there going to be war in Ukraine and how badly will it affect sales

[tacnet]

No politician involved in this crisis seems to think beyond today. The reality on the ground is the 2 breakaway republics have now pretty much aligned themselves with Russia. Russia has sent peace keepers, aka troops, call it what you like.

If you keep adding sanctions what is stopping Russia moving in taking over the whole of Ukraine. With Germany putting Nordstream 2 on hold I really think war is going to happen. Now that was as dumb a move as the Germans could have taken. First of all Germany is moving towards clean energy, they have a gas shortage, they need that 2nd pipeline to satisfy their gas needs, they cut their nose to spite their face.

Gas shortages are going to hurt everyone in Europe and prices will sky rocket. Guess who sells gas, you are just making Russia more money. They should have kept the threat of cancelling Nordstream 2 not actually done it. Russia is cozying up to China who will buy all the gas Russia can supply. Ever hear of the saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend, all this is doing is pushing Russia and China closer in every way.

What needs to happen is everyone stop talking big and threatening, sit down make a deal. The situation has already gotten out of hand don't make it worse. There is no military solution especially when the west said months ago they would not put boots on the ground in Ukraine. The 2 independent republics are now gone, save the rest of Ukraine as one country, because pissing off Russia with Nordstream2 being cancelled and adding sanctions is only going to get the hawks over there to say it is obvious we out gun Ukraine, they have already tried to cause us financial harm let's go take it all.

My thoughts on this.

Yeah i hear what you are saying but remember, this is a man whos says Ukraine has no right to exist. How do you negotiate with someone from that starting point ???

We have to bear in mind that in just the last few years alone Putin has invaded and occupied Crimea, been caught screwing around with other countries elections, routinely uses cyber warfare and even executes opponents on foreign soil (eg 2 poisinings in the UK) and so far the west has let him get away with it

I think this is yet another example of the great weakness of democracy. These authoritarian states (ie Russia, China etc) know that they can do whatever they like and all they have to do is wait 4 years and someone else will be in charge and everything changes.

Just my 2 cents

[gotonudecom]

Is there going to be war in Ukraine and how badly will it affect sales?

I think there will be a war and sales will go down for a short while and come back, unless the war spreads then it's bye bye sales.

I am dismayed that sales are the topic here. People are dying and you are worried about sales?? You must be American.

[fetishnews]

Is there going to be war in Ukraine and how badly will it affect sales?

I think there will be a war and sales will go down for a short while and come back, unless the war spreads then it's bye bye sales.

I am dismayed that sales are the topic here. People are dying and you are worried about sales?? You must be American.

Who cares about Ukraine I care about paying my bills and to answer the question yes I am American.

[gotonudecom]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_o ... _conflicts

You are all falling for the distraction by the media and the big players.


Covid what, hey look Russia is attacking an innocent country. cry cry! and forget how bad we are dealing with covid and how good we are at taking your freedom. Squirrel!

This war is NOT NEW! You do realize that Russia shot down that air liner that everyone search for over months!?!?!?
Some of you educated people will say which plane are you referring to.. EXACTLY! This is not a new war.

Distraction by the media. over 1000 people will die today in wars that have been raging for hundreds of years, without news media coverage.

Currently, the two countries are in a state of war: the Russo-Ukrainian War began in 2014 following the Russian annexation of Crimea from Ukraine. ... The Russian government feared that Ukraine's membership of the EU and NATO would complete a western wall of allied countries by restricting Russia's access to the Black Sea.

Ukraine officially declared itself an independent country on 24 August 1991, when the communist Supreme Soviet (parliament) of Ukraine proclaimed that Ukraine would no longer follow the laws of USSR and only the laws of the Ukrainian SSR, de facto declaring Ukraine's independence from the Soviet Union.

so Russia is just now getting around to telling Ukraine, na you can not be independent and we want access to the Black Sea, and give it or else.

Also without a GREAT Republican warmonger in the White House, other countries, know they can buy the Democrat pussies that are scared of WAR.

What is war good for?

Stopping bad people from doing bad things to other wise not bad people.

There are no cooler heads, when one side is a fucking bully and the other side is a pussy.

For those of you that think the person with the bigger stick wins! NOPE! The person selling the sticks wins.

Read about all the wars, before comments.

Sales?!? REALLY?!?! WTF?!?! I am offended! LOL!

[gotonudecom]

No politician involved in this crisis seems to think beyond today. The reality on the ground is the 2 breakaway republics have now pretty much aligned themselves with Russia. Russia has sent peace keepers, aka troops, call it what you like.

If you keep adding sanctions what is stopping Russia moving in taking over the whole of Ukraine. With Germany putting Nordstream 2 on hold I really think war is going to happen. Now that was as dumb a move as the Germans could have taken. First of all Germany is moving towards clean energy, they have a gas shortage, they need that 2nd pipeline to satisfy their gas needs, they cut their nose to spite their face.

Gas shortages are going to hurt everyone in Europe and prices will sky rocket. Guess who sells gas, you are just making Russia more money. They should have kept the threat of cancelling Nordstream 2 not actually done it. Russia is cozying up to China who will buy all the gas Russia can supply. Ever hear of the saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend, all this is doing is pushing Russia and China closer in every way.

What needs to happen is everyone stop talking big and threatening, sit down make a deal. The situation has already gotten out of hand don't make it worse. There is no military solution especially when the west said months ago they would not put boots on the ground in Ukraine. The 2 independent republics are now gone, save the rest of Ukraine as one country, because pissing off Russia with Nordstream2 being cancelled and adding sanctions is only going to get the hawks over there to say it is obvious we out gun Ukraine, they have already tried to cause us financial harm let's go take it all.

My thoughts on this.

Yeah i hear what you are saying but remember, this is a man whos says Ukraine has no right to exist. How do you negotiate with someone from that starting point ???

We have to bear in mind that in just the last few years alone Putin has invaded and occupied Crimea, been caught screwing around with other countries elections, routinely uses cyber warfare and even executes opponents on foreign soil (eg 2 poisinings in the UK) and so far the west has let him get away with it

I think this is yet another example of the great weakness of democracy. These authoritarian states (ie Russia, China etc) know that they can do whatever they like and all they have to do is wait 4 years and someone else will be in charge and everything changes.

Just my 2 cents

I agree with TACNET!

Negotiating on this planet is for the people on the losing side.

This is exactly why America is suppose to be a Republic, but we let the Democrats remove that lesson from our schools. Then the Republicans forgot why America was supposed to be a republic and helped the Democrats change the country to a democracy. So they all could get richer and more powerful.

Democracies fail for a reason. Stupid people are allowed to vote. Then they start voting themselves money from the Government, Then start trying to negotiate with tyrants instead of shooting them in the face. Thus snowflakes are born and allowed to live.

This world is a violent place. I don't expect you people that hide in you houses, or that only travel to save places, to know shit about the violence of this world.

Shit will kill you out there and most of the shit is another HUMAN!!

Just my 2 cents on top of Tacnet's!

[jag]

So the unimaginable has happened, stay safe.

[TheButcher]

Sad to see how this unfolded but I saw it coming, especially as I said when the sanctions and Nordstream2 got canned. The Russians had nothing to lose any more.

Hope it does not end up in too many deaths.

[tacnet]

I agree with TACNET!

Negotiating on this planet is for the people on the losing side.

This is exactly why America is suppose to be a Republic, but we let the Democrats remove that lesson from our schools. Then the Republicans forgot why America was supposed to be a republic and helped the Democrats change the country to a democracy. So they all could get richer and more powerful.

Democracies fail for a reason. Stupid people are allowed to vote. Then they start voting themselves money from the Government, Then start trying to negotiate with tyrants instead of shooting them in the face. Thus snowflakes are born and allowed to live.

This world is a violent place. I don't expect you people that hide in you houses, or that only travel to save places, to know shit about the violence of this world.

Shit will kill you out there and most of the shit is another HUMAN!!

Just my 2 cents on top of Tacnet's!

This is not what i said at all. Its got nothing to do with Republicans or the Democrats. Whoever is in the White House, the US is still a democracy

Democracy has its weaknesses but it DOES work and its the only way forward. The alternative is an authoritarian state like Russia or China where their leaders can go ahead and start a war and not worry about what the people think because their people dont get to vote.

Any democratic leader who tried to do what Putin has done today would be voted out of power real quick. There would rightly be mass protests in the streets. The handful of Russians who protested in Moscow today were quickly locked up.

I hope that one day we will learn to forget about political borders and even individual countries. We are ALL citizens of the world and fighting over who owns what bit of the world is like two fleas fighting over who owns the dog that they live on

[badkitty]

Do you see this becoming WW3?

[AlexO]

From the news I saw it should be over in a week, the sooner the better.

[tacnet]

Do you see this becoming WW3?

Lets hope not. I think Putin would be stupid to attack one of the Nato countries as that would certainly trigger a new world war

I agree with AlexO, the sooner this is over the better but on the other hand, we cannot let Putin get away with this. One way or another he has to fail and be seen to fail by the rest of the world. We have to demonstrate that agression like this doesnt work

I cant see how he plans to hold Ukraine even if he takes it. He's going to have to have thousands of troops permanently based there to stop all the insurgence attacks that are sure to follow. Just like what happened to Russia when they invaded Afghanistan

[TheButcher]

Do you see this becoming WW3?

Lets hope not. I think Putin would be stupid to attack one of the Nato countries as that would certainly trigger a new world war

I agree with AlexO, the sooner this is over the better but on the other hand, we cannot let Putin get away with this. One way or another he has to fail and be seen to fail by the rest of the world. We have to demonstrate that agression like this doesnt work

I cant see how he plans to hold Ukraine even if he takes it. He's going to have to have thousands of troops permanently based there to stop all the insurgence attacks that are sure to follow. Just like what happened to Russia when they invaded Afghanistan

Yep the sooner it is over the better.

I doubt he plans on occupying the country, it would be very hard to occupy a country that large with 44 million people of which at least 40 million hate you and what you are doing. He might want to keep the east and Mariupol areas for obvious reasons. You would think they learned from Afghanistan which made the SU broke.



This is on the Dailymail.co.uk now,

"Ukrainian intelligence has claimed that Russia is running out of money, weapons and resources fast
If Kyiv can hold off the Russian advance on Kyiv for 10 days, the Kremlin may have to enter negotiations"


I seriously doubt Russia has 3 days or 10 days worth of weapons, ammunition and money.

[gotonudecom]

your an idiot if you think that America is supposed to be a Democracy
and
if you think America is a Democracy.

The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government.

America is a Republic!!! the type of republic is a federal democratic republic.
However it is NOT run like this.

[tacnet]

your an idiot if you think that America is supposed to be a Democracy
and
if you think America is a Democracy.

The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government.

America is a Republic!!! the type of republic is a federal democratic republic.
However it is NOT run like this.

I seriously cant be bothered with you bullshit

This topic is about Ukraine, not the US

[TheButcher]

Cornering Putin is not a good idea, you never know what someone humiliated or feeling defeated might do, especially when they have the nuke option. Finding a diplomatic off ramp from this current situation is the best way to end the conflict, deaths and suffering. My 2 cents.