[NEWS] Ukraine Can’t Win the War

[BrasSmonkey]

[tacnet]

I thought we were keeping all the Ukraine stuff in the one thread ???

[BrasSmonkey]

I thought we were keeping all the Ukraine stuff in the one thread ???

boom!!!!

[Terry]

Headline threads are better on the own not mixed up in long threads

[tacnet]

Putin is simply throwing everything he's got at Ukraine for 2 reasons. Firstly he wants to hold as much territory as possible before the November US elections incase Trump wins (which is looking increasingly unlikely) and secondly he wants to do it before Ukraines F16s get up in the sky (pilot training means its going to be another few months yet) as they will be a real game changer for Ukraine

Either way, Putins military has proven to be nothing more than a paper tiger and, with Ukraine's invasion of Russia, now the whole world knows it

As Ive said many times before, Putin has already lost this war

[BrasSmonkey]

nope nato was is using the ukraine just like the taliban. fight a war through them. some how putin found out and struck first.

Putin is simply throwing everything he's got at Ukraine for 2 reasons. Firstly he wants to hold as much territory as possible before the November US elections incase Trump wins (which is looking increasingly unlikely) and secondly he wants to do it before Ukraines F16s get up in the sky (pilot training means its going to be another few months yet) as they will be a real game changer for Ukraine

Either way, Putins military has proven to be nothing more than a paper tiger and, with Ukraine's invasion of Russia, now the whole world knows it

As Ive said many times before, Putin has already lost this war

[tacnet]

nope nato was is using the ukraine just like the taliban. fight a war through them. some how putin found out and struck first.

Putin is simply throwing everything he's got at Ukraine for 2 reasons. Firstly he wants to hold as much territory as possible before the November US elections incase Trump wins (which is looking increasingly unlikely) and secondly he wants to do it before Ukraines F16s get up in the sky (pilot training means its going to be another few months yet) as they will be a real game changer for Ukraine

Either way, Putins military has proven to be nothing more than a paper tiger and, with Ukraine's invasion of Russia, now the whole world knows it

As Ive said many times before, Putin has already lost this war

Thats complete bullshit. You really dont know what the hell you are talking about. Why the hell would NATO want to invade Russia ??? There is no need. Russia doesnt have anything NATO countries dont already have in abundance and Russia sure as hell dont represent a threat like they did back in the cold war. Its China that has been the threat, not Russia

NATO is a defensive organisation and its for that reason that all the former eastern block countries chose to join it. To protect their democracies from being attacked by Putin

Putin is trying to rebuild the former soviet union. That much is clear to pretty much every western country and its why all of Europe is gearing up for war right now

[britporn_mike]

NATO is a defensive organisation and its for that reason that all the former eastern block countries chose to join it. To protect their democracies from being attacked by Putin

Even I have to get in on this one now.

Defensive or proactive attack on other countries?

Yugoslavia during the Kosovo war and NATO did air strikes from 24 March 1999 to 10 June 1999.

NATO bombed the shit out of Libya which on the maps I see is a north African country not in Europe from 9 March 2011.

[BrasSmonkey]

the uk/europe had the plans... i think the ukraine was the f.o.b finland, sweden... i forget what it was called. reason.. fear? oil? suicidal? the ukraine is in the second day of heavy attacks!!!

nope nato was is using the ukraine just like the taliban. fight a war through them. some how putin found out and struck first.

Putin is simply throwing everything he's got at Ukraine for 2 reasons. Firstly he wants to hold as much territory as possible before the November US elections incase Trump wins (which is looking increasingly unlikely) and secondly he wants to do it before Ukraines F16s get up in the sky (pilot training means its going to be another few months yet) as they will be a real game changer for Ukraine

Either way, Putins military has proven to be nothing more than a paper tiger and, with Ukraine's invasion of Russia, now the whole world knows it

As Ive said many times before, Putin has already lost this war

Thats complete bullshit. You really dont know what the hell you are talking about. Why the hell would NATO want to invade Russia ??? There is no need. Russia doesnt have anything NATO countries dont already have in abundance and Russia sure as hell dont represent a threat like they did back in the cold war. Its China that has been the threat, not Russia

NATO is a defensive organisation and its for that reason that all the former eastern block countries chose to join it. To protect their democracies from being attacked by Putin

Putin is trying to rebuild the former soviet union. That much is clear to pretty much every western country and its why all of Europe is gearing up for war right now

[tacnet]

NATO is a defensive organisation and its for that reason that all the former eastern block countries chose to join it. To protect their democracies from being attacked by Putin

Even I have to get in on this one now.

Defensive or proactive attack on other countries?

Yugoslavia during the Kosovo war and NATO did air strikes from 24 March 1999 to 10 June 1999.

NATO bombed the shit out of Libya which on the maps I see is a north African country not in Europe from 9 March 2011.

Yes NATO has got involved in wars before, just like they are doing in Ukraine right now

What I am saying is that the reason all those eastern block countries like Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and more recently Sweden and Finland have joined NATO is to defend their democracies from Putin.

There was NO plans by NATO to invade Russia period. That is purely Putin's propaganda. Remember Bush and Blaire were actively trying to bring Russia closer to the west (eg Bush's famouse "Soul" speech)

Putin has been after Ukraine for decades. He tried to poison the president of Ukraine, Viktor Yushenko and when that didnt work he threatened the new president, Viktor Yanukovych, to stop him signing a trade deal with the EU. Now he is trying to take it by force and he WILL be stopped

[BrasSmonkey]

you know you are lying.

NATO is a defensive organisation and its for that reason that all the former eastern block countries chose to join it. To protect their democracies from being attacked by Putin

Even I have to get in on this one now.

Defensive or proactive attack on other countries?

Yugoslavia during the Kosovo war and NATO did air strikes from 24 March 1999 to 10 June 1999.

NATO bombed the shit out of Libya which on the maps I see is a north African country not in Europe from 9 March 2011.

Yes NATO has got involved in wars before, just like they are doing in Ukraine right now

What I am saying is that the reason all those eastern block countries like Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and more recently Sweden and Finland have joined NATO is to defend their democracies from Putin.

There was NO plans by NATO to invade Russia period. That is purely Putin's propaganda. Remember Bush and Blaire were actively trying to bring Russia closer to the west (eg Bush's famouse "Soul" speech)

Putin has been after Ukraine for decades. He tried to poison the president of Ukraine, Viktor Yushenko and when that didnt work he threatened the new president, Viktor Yanukovych, to stop him signing a trade deal with the EU. Now he is trying to take it by force and he WILL be stopped

[TheButcher]

NATO is a defensive organisation and its for that reason that all the former eastern block countries chose to join it. To protect their democracies from being attacked by Putin

Even I have to get in on this one now.

Defensive or proactive attack on other countries?

Yugoslavia during the Kosovo war and NATO did air strikes from 24 March 1999 to 10 June 1999.

NATO bombed the shit out of Libya which on the maps I see is a north African country not in Europe from 9 March 2011.

Yes NATO has got involved in wars before, just like they are doing in Ukraine right now

What I am saying is that the reason all those eastern block countries like Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and more recently Sweden and Finland have joined NATO is to defend their democracies from Putin.

There was NO plans by NATO to invade Russia period. That is purely Putin's propaganda. Remember Bush and Blaire were actively trying to bring Russia closer to the west (eg Bush's famouse "Soul" speech)

Putin has been after Ukraine for decades. He tried to poison the president of Ukraine, Viktor Yushenko and when that didnt work he threatened the new president, Viktor Yanukovych, to stop him signing a trade deal with the EU. Now he is trying to take it by force and he WILL be stopped

I have a few questions but let me start with this one. Is Ukraine a member of NATO if not why is NATO funding,arming, providing all sorts of logistics to that non-member country.

[tacnet]

Even I have to get in on this one now.

Defensive or proactive attack on other countries?

Yugoslavia during the Kosovo war and NATO did air strikes from 24 March 1999 to 10 June 1999.

NATO bombed the shit out of Libya which on the maps I see is a north African country not in Europe from 9 March 2011.

Yes NATO has got involved in wars before, just like they are doing in Ukraine right now

What I am saying is that the reason all those eastern block countries like Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and more recently Sweden and Finland have joined NATO is to defend their democracies from Putin.

There was NO plans by NATO to invade Russia period. That is purely Putin's propaganda. Remember Bush and Blaire were actively trying to bring Russia closer to the west (eg Bush's famouse "Soul" speech)

Putin has been after Ukraine for decades. He tried to poison the president of Ukraine, Viktor Yushenko and when that didnt work he threatened the new president, Viktor Yanukovych, to stop him signing a trade deal with the EU. Now he is trying to take it by force and he WILL be stopped

I have a few questions but let me start with this one. Is Ukraine a member of NATO if not why is NATO funding,arming, providing all sorts of logistics to that non-member country.

Because if we let Putin get away with yet another invasion then there will be war with NATO. This is EXACTLY how WW2 started. We let Hitler get away with invading Austria, the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia and each time he felt emboldened and came back for more

Now we see Putin doing the exact same thing with Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea and now Ukraine. Each time we have let him get away with it but now we have to draw the line. This is why NATO is supporting Ukraine, to stop Putin before this turns into an all out war. Its also why EVERY European nation is massively ramping up its war production right now. Dont forget, Putin is allied to our 3 biggest enemies - China, Iran and North Korea. If we dont stop Putin now then we will be facing all 4 countries in a world war for sure

[BrasSmonkey]

you are talking like it's just putin! if nato jumps on russia... we are sure as shit will have ww3!!!

Yes NATO has got involved in wars before, just like they are doing in Ukraine right now

What I am saying is that the reason all those eastern block countries like Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and more recently Sweden and Finland have joined NATO is to defend their democracies from Putin.

There was NO plans by NATO to invade Russia period. That is purely Putin's propaganda. Remember Bush and Blaire were actively trying to bring Russia closer to the west (eg Bush's famouse "Soul" speech)

Putin has been after Ukraine for decades. He tried to poison the president of Ukraine, Viktor Yushenko and when that didnt work he threatened the new president, Viktor Yanukovych, to stop him signing a trade deal with the EU. Now he is trying to take it by force and he WILL be stopped

I have a few questions but let me start with this one. Is Ukraine a member of NATO if not why is NATO funding,arming, providing all sorts of logistics to that non-member country.

Because if we let Putin get away with yet another invasion then there will be war with NATO. This is EXACTLY how WW2 started. We let Hitler get away with invading Austria, the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia and each time he felt emboldened and came back for more

Now we see Putin doing the exact same thing with Georgia, Chechnya, Crimea and now Ukraine. Each time we have let him get away with it but now we have to draw the line. This is why NATO is supporting Ukraine, to stop Putin before this turns into an all out war. Its also why EVERY European nation is massively ramping up its war production right now. Dont forget, Putin is allied to our 3 biggest enemies - China, Iran and North Korea. If we dont stop Putin now then we will be facing all 4 countries in a world war for sure

[TheButcher]

Look up the Monroe doctrine, you think Russia will allow NATO to get any closer to it's borders, no way. Georgia already learned it's lesson they try again they'll end up annexed. Georgia won't try again and Ukraine is learning the hard way it is about to be cut up, cut off the Black sea once Russia takes Odessa and more.
I think Russia will go all the way to the Dnipro river. I don't care about either country but I am a realist and see what is happening and will happen. Zelensky is letting his country get gobbled up and his people die, he knows if the war stops he is out of power, it's that simple. I said this 2 and a half years ago the end will be dictated by Russia, Ukraine is going to capitulate and do as it is told. Not happy for them but that is the fact. And now I will merge the thread to the Ukraine war one,.