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Post by TheButcher » February 16th, 2024, 1:52 pm

Something doesn't make sense, there is an election coming up, this guy is in a Siberian prison out of sight out of mind, why kill him so the people start saying Putin is a killer. Think about it, you don't need negative drama and opening that can of worms up when you have the situation under control.

He might have committed suicide, he might have died of some natural causes but killing him now does not help Putin or his re-election efforts, that fact he will win is not the point.
An autopsy is needed before anyone can make a rational decision.

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Post by BrasSmonkey » February 16th, 2024, 2:03 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 1:52 pm
Something doesn't make sense, there is an election coming up, this guy is in a Siberian prison out of sight out of mind, why kill him so the people start saying Putin is a killer. Think about it, you don't need negative drama and opening that can of worms up when you have the situation under control.

He might have committed suicide, he might have died of some natural causes but killing him now does not help Putin or his re-election efforts, that fact he will win is not the point.
An autopsy is needed before anyone can make a rational decision.
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Post by tacnet » February 16th, 2024, 2:11 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 1:52 pm
Something doesn't make sense, there is an election coming up, this guy is in a Siberian prison out of sight out of mind, why kill him so the people start saying Putin is a killer. Think about it, you don't need negative drama and opening that can of worms up when you have the situation under control.

He might have committed suicide, he might have died of some natural causes but killing him now does not help Putin or his re-election efforts, that fact he will win is not the point.
An autopsy is needed before anyone can make a rational decision.
Part of it could be because Navalny still had quite a following (he was still the 2nd most popular politician in Russia) and he was telling his followers NOT to vote for Putin. There was also a 3rd candidate (I forget his name now) who was critical of the war in Ukraine and he has now been banned from running LOL

Let's not forget the last candidate that tried to run against Putin, Boris Nemtsov who was shot dead just yards from the Kremlin https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31669061

There is never going to be an autopsy. Just like there was never an explanation into that plane crash

This page is worth reading. It gives a summary of all the attacks that Putin's opponents have suffered

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wi ... -107295001

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Post by 3ric » February 16th, 2024, 2:19 pm

Who thinks we should sanction Putin?




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Post by BrasSmonkey » February 16th, 2024, 2:26 pm

3ric wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:19 pm
Who thinks we should sanction Putin?
it does not work on a country that big.... that creates a market for hiding money...
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Post by TheButcher » February 16th, 2024, 2:30 pm

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:26 pm
3ric wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:19 pm
Who thinks we should sanction Putin?
it does not work on a country that big.... that creates a market for hiding money...

Hold on a citizen of a foreign country dies we sanction the president of that country, based on what fact. What is wrong with people, first find out what he died of. You need an autopsy, you can't go around sanctioning people out the blue. Look how well sanctions have worked so far, Europe is an economic basket case, Uk is officially in a recession. Russia is booming. Ever hear of innocent until proven guilty?

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Post by BrasSmonkey » February 16th, 2024, 2:38 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:30 pm
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:26 pm
3ric wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:19 pm
Who thinks we should sanction Putin?
it does not work on a country that big.... that creates a market for hiding money...

Hold on a citizen of a foreign country dies we sanction the president of that country, based on what fact. What is wrong with people, first find out what he died of. You need an autopsy, you can't go around sanctioning people out the blue. Look how well sanctions have worked so far, Europe is an economic basket case, Uk is officially in a recession. Russia is booming. Ever hear of innocent until proven guilty?
yup and it builds relations with china! now they can fall back on the yuan....
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Post by TheButcher » February 16th, 2024, 2:42 pm

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:38 pm
TheButcher wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:30 pm
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:26 pm


it does not work on a country that big.... that creates a market for hiding money...

Hold on a citizen of a foreign country dies we sanction the president of that country, based on what fact. What is wrong with people, first find out what he died of. You need an autopsy, you can't go around sanctioning people out the blue. Look how well sanctions have worked so far, Europe is an economic basket case, Uk is officially in a recession. Russia is booming. Ever hear of innocent until proven guilty?
yup and it builds relations with china! now they can fall back on the yen....
You get my point. We always tried to keep Russia and China at arms length hating each other, all these sanctions did was bring them closer. Now we made the Chinese currency more accepted in the world because we decided to freeze Russian money. Big deal we got $300 billion in return we screwed up the dollar, countries are thinking what if they freeze our cash. No one thinks 2 steps a head, they think like 5 year olds. Let me take his candy, not thinking what comes next.

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Post by BrasSmonkey » February 16th, 2024, 2:46 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:42 pm
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:38 pm
TheButcher wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 2:30 pm



Hold on a citizen of a foreign country dies we sanction the president of that country, based on what fact. What is wrong with people, first find out what he died of. You need an autopsy, you can't go around sanctioning people out the blue. Look how well sanctions have worked so far, Europe is an economic basket case, Uk is officially in a recession. Russia is booming. Ever hear of innocent until proven guilty?
yup and it builds relations with china! now they can fall back on the yen....
You get my point. We always tried to keep Russia and China at arms length hating each other, all these sanctions did was bring them closer. Now we made the Chinese currency more accepted in the world because we decided to freeze Russian money. Big deal we got $300 billion in return we screwed up the dollar, countries are thinking what if they freeze our cash. No one thinks 2 steps a head, they think like 5 year olds. Let me take his candy, not thinking what comes next.
i noticed that things are hidden in the media. china and india are fighting. china bothers people and it doesn't make headlines.
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Post by tacnet » February 16th, 2024, 4:40 pm

There's no point in sanctioning them, they are already sanctioned

But how many times do we have to give Putin the benefit of the doubt ?? I mean, does anybody truly believe that Putin was NOT responsible for Prigozhin's plane crash ??? or the poisoning of Navalny with Novichoc ?? Or the Novichoc attacks in Salisbury ?? or any one of a dozen other attacks ??

If you accept that he is responsible for ANY of these attacks then you have to accept that this is a guy who routinely murders his opponents and that fact alone is enough for us NOT to do business with him.

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Post by BrasSmonkey » February 16th, 2024, 5:29 pm

tacnet wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 4:40 pm
There's no point in sanctioning them, they are already sanctioned

But how many times do we have to give Putin the benefit of the doubt ?? I mean, does anybody truly believe that Putin was NOT responsible for Prigozhin's plane crash ??? or the poisoning of Navalny with Novichoc ?? Or the Novichoc attacks in Salisbury ?? or any one of a dozen other attacks ??

If you accept that he is responsible for ANY of these attacks then you have to accept that this is a guy who routinely murders his opponents and that fact alone is enough for us NOT to do business with him.
how do you justify bothering him in his own land? move on!
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Post by deviantz » February 16th, 2024, 8:05 pm

BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 5:29 pm
tacnet wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 4:40 pm
There's no point in sanctioning them, they are already sanctioned

But how many times do we have to give Putin the benefit of the doubt ?? I mean, does anybody truly believe that Putin was NOT responsible for Prigozhin's plane crash ??? or the poisoning of Navalny with Novichoc ?? Or the Novichoc attacks in Salisbury ?? or any one of a dozen other attacks ??

If you accept that he is responsible for ANY of these attacks then you have to accept that this is a guy who routinely murders his opponents and that fact alone is enough for us NOT to do business with him.
how do you justify bothering him in his own land? move on!
You ever see Russia or another country start telling us what to do when someone dies?

Take Epstein he died under questionable circumstances, when did any other country get involved.




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Post by tacnet » February 16th, 2024, 8:52 pm

deviantz wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 8:05 pm
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 5:29 pm
tacnet wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 4:40 pm
There's no point in sanctioning them, they are already sanctioned

But how many times do we have to give Putin the benefit of the doubt ?? I mean, does anybody truly believe that Putin was NOT responsible for Prigozhin's plane crash ??? or the poisoning of Navalny with Novichoc ?? Or the Novichoc attacks in Salisbury ?? or any one of a dozen other attacks ??

If you accept that he is responsible for ANY of these attacks then you have to accept that this is a guy who routinely murders his opponents and that fact alone is enough for us NOT to do business with him.
how do you justify bothering him in his own land? move on!
You ever see Russia or another country start telling us what to do when someone dies?

Take Epstein he died under questionable circumstances, when did any other country get involved.
Im not saying we should sanction them. Im just saying this is a guy we should NOT be supporting in any way.

Epstein was a convicted paedophile, NOT the main political opposition leader. Imagine if Biden tried to poison Trump and then had him locked up in one of the toughest prisons in America and finally had him killed ?????

If you've not seen it yet then I urge you to watch the oscar winning documentary called "Navalny". Here's the trailer


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Post by BrasSmonkey » February 17th, 2024, 1:50 am

tacnet wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 8:52 pm
deviantz wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 8:05 pm
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 5:29 pm

how do you justify bothering him in his own land? move on!
You ever see Russia or another country start telling us what to do when someone dies?

Take Epstein he died under questionable circumstances, when did any other country get involved.
Im not saying we should sanction them. Im just saying this is a guy we should NOT be supporting in any way.

Epstein was a convicted paedophile, NOT the main political opposition leader. Imagine if Biden tried to poison Trump and then had him locked up in one of the toughest prisons in America and finally had him killed ?????

If you've not seen it yet then I urge you to watch the oscar winning documentary called "Navalny". Here's the trailer

it's too late. he has full military support... the reason why he is not all out bombing ukraine is because people support him.
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Post by tacnet » February 17th, 2024, 8:43 am

tacnet wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 8:52 pm
deviantz wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 8:05 pm
BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑
February 16th, 2024, 5:29 pm

how do you justify bothering him in his own land? move on!
You ever see Russia or another country start telling us what to do when someone dies?

Take Epstein he died under questionable circumstances, when did any other country get involved.
Im not saying we should sanction them. Im just saying this is a guy we should NOT be supporting in any way.

Epstein was a convicted paedophile, NOT the main political opposition leader. Imagine if Biden tried to poison Trump and then had him locked up in one of the toughest prisons in America and finally had him killed ?????

If you've not seen it yet then I urge you to watch the oscar winning documentary called "Navalny". Here's the trailer

I watched this film again last night and it is truly shocking. They reveal Putin's plot to poison Navalny and even trick one of the FSB operatives who carried out the attack to reveal details, on the phone, of how they did it. They sprayed his underpants with Novichoc.

I know you Trump supporters dont want to hear this but there's no 2 ways about it. Putin is a mass murderer and his biggest ally is Donald Trump

Watch the trailer above and if you can, watch the full film. You will be shocked

Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny is dead

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