The Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread (Keep all related posts here)

[bestfreeporn]

It is a great way to take over the privacy and rights of people, don't open this store, don't go there, don't travel, don't go to work......

[TheButcher]

UK health minister proposing over 70's may be told to self isolate or get arrested and forcibly isolated. This is bad news on many levels.

First of all you are basically telling people to lock themselves indoors for months. Second of all the elderly need human interaction, and their exercise. You can't lock people up in a 1 bedroom fat for months, they'll go crazy. A lot fo old people live from one pension check to the next, they do not have the means to go out hoard 4 months of groceries even if they wanted to. Plus you can not stock up on perishable foods for that long, take for example meat, fish, milk. What about getting to a doctor or pharmacy, this is plain wrong.

Advise people, educated them it is best for them to stay home, not to leave unless necessary. Yes if anyone has the symptoms of Coronavirus tell them to self isolate for 2 weeks, that is acceptable to me, but forcibly imprisoning them is just wrong.

This Cpronavirus is being way over regulated for people, do things right .


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-11957770

The health secretary has told Sky News that over-70s will be asked to self-isolate "in the coming weeks" to try to protect them from coronavirus - and it could potentially last for months.

Matt Hancock also told the Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme that the UK was likely to need "many more times" the current 5,000 ventilators, amid concerns hospitals will come under intense pressure.
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He said the growing virus outbreak meant "the elderly and vulnerable" would be asked to "shield themselves by self-isolating".

When pushed on whether they could be asked to isolate for up to four months, he said: "That is in the action plan, yes.

"And we will be setting it out in more detail when that's the right time to do so, because we appreciate it is a very big ask of the elderly and vulnerable, and it's for their own self-protection."
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Older people with underlying health conditions are particularly at risk if they catch the coronavirus.

Mr Hancock said the government did not want to act too soon.
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"It's not an easy thing for people to do, it's not an easy thing for people to sustain. But the critical thing is we need to be ready," said the health secretary.

Mr Hancock called the outbreak - which has killed 21 people and infected 1,140 in the UK - "one of the biggest challenges we've faced for a generation".

"The measures we're looking at taking are very, very significant and they will disrupt the ordinary lives of almost everybody in the country," he added.

It comes as Boris Johnson is to ask firms to join a "national effort" and ramp up the production of ventilators.
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Mr Hancock said the UK is likely to need "many times more than" the current 5,000 in the country.

"We're saying (to manufacturers) if you produce a ventilator, we'll buy it. No number is too high," he said.

The health secretary said the government is also asking firms to switch production lines to make more ventilators and other critical care equipment.

The prime minister is holding a conference call with manufacturers today to ask them to step up.

The ventilators are needed to help people with severe symptoms to breathe properly when a sticky mucus fills their lungs.

The NHS could also buy up thousands of beds in private hospitals to boost capacity if COVID-19 spreads rapidly.

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A government bill on emergency powers to deal with the outbreak is to be set out on Tuesday and published on Thursday, said Mr Hancock.

He said it would include a broad range of measures and that the government was "absolutely ready" to ban gatherings of more than 500 people.

"We will take these decisions at the right time. I'm absolutely ready to take actions like that," said Mr Hancock.
Britain's Health Secretary Matt Hancock arrives for a meeting of the cabinet at 10 Downing Street on March 11, 2020 ahead of the announcement of Britain's first post-Brexit budget. - Britain unveils its first post-Brexit budget on on March 11, with all eyes on emergency government measures to ease the economic pain from the coronavirus outbreak. (Photo by Tolga AKMEN / AFP) (Photo by TOLGA AKMEN/AFP via Getty Images)

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He confirmed ministers were seeking to give police powers to arrest and forcibly quarantine people who are sick with the virus but are not self-isolating.

A government COBRA meeting will discuss the latest plans on Monday amid criticism from scientists that its plan is "risking lives" by not immediately bringing in social distancing measures.

[TheButcher]

The end is getting near, forget global warming or nuclear wars.

LOL no it is not, but this is one serious pandemic.Some of the media hype is making people panic more than they should.

[TheButcher]

Italians with Coronavirus 80 or in poor health you will not be able to get hospitalization and left to die basically if this proposal goes through.
Jesus who needs old people r sick ones when they are just a burden on the tax payers, let them die is what this is.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/italians-ove ... 25888.html

Italians over 80 'will be left to die' as country overwhelmed by coronavirus
Erica Di Blasi
The TelegraphMarch 15, 2020, 8:48 AM EDT

Coronavirus victims in Italy will be denied access to intensive care if they are aged 80 or more or in poor health should pressure on beds increase, a document prepared by a crisis management unit in Turin propose.

Some patients denied intensive care will in effect be left to die, doctors fear.

The unit has drawn up a protocol, seen by The Telegraph, that will determine which patients receive treatment in intensive care and which do not if there are insufficient spaces. Intensive care capacity is running short in Italy as the coronavirus continues to spread.

The document, produced by the civil protection deparment of the Piedmont region, one of those hardest hit, says: "The criteria for access to intensive therapy in cases of emergency must include age of less than 80 or a score on the Charlson comorbidity Index [which indicates how many other medical conditions the patient has] of less than 5."

The ability of the patient to recover from resuscitation will also be considered.

One doctor said: "[Who lives and who dies] is decided by age and by the [patient's] health conditions. This is how it is in a war."

The document says: "The growth of the current epidemic makes it likely that a point of imbalance between the clinical needs of patients with COVID-19 and the effective availability of intensive resources will be reached.

"Should it become impossible to provide all patients with intensive care services, it will be necessary to apply criteria for access to intensive treatment, which depends on the limited resources available."

It adds: "The criteria set out guidelines if the situation becomes of such an exceptional nature as to make the therapeutic choices on the individual case dependent on the availability of resources, forcing [hospitals] to focus on those cases in which the cost/benefit ratio is more favorable for clinical treatment."

Luigi Icardi, a councilor for health in Piedmont, said: "I never wanted to see such a moment. It [the document] will be binding and will establish in the event of saturation of the wards a precedence code for access to intensive care, based on certain parameters such as potential survival."

The document is already complete and only approval from a technical-scientific committee is needed before it is sent to hospitals. The criteria are expected to apply throughout Italy, government sources said.

More than 1,000 people in Italy have now died from the virus and the number is growing every day. More than 15,000 are infected.

Italy has 5,090 intensive care beds, which for the moment exceeds the number of patients who need them. It is also working to create new bed capacity in private clinics, nursing homes and even in tents. However, the country also needs also doctors and nurses - the government wants to hire them - and equipment.

Lombardy remains the most critical region. However, the situation is also serious in neighboring Piedmont. Here, in just one day, 180 new cases were recorded, while deaths numbered 27. The trend suggests that the situation is not about to improve.

Roberto Testi, president of the coranavirus technical-scientific committee for Piedmont, told The Telegraph: "Here in Piedmont we aim to delay as long as possible the use of these criteria. At the moment there are still intensive care places available and we are working to create more.

"We want to arrive as late as possible at the point where we have to decide who lives and who dies. The criteria relate only to access to intensive care - those who do not get access to intensive care will still receive all the treatment possible. In medicine we sometimes have to make difficult choices but it's important to have a system about how to make them."

[BarbaraCum]

Well the chances of a recovery at that age are not high, so I see why they are thinking of not treating the 80 plus.

[FilmLatex]

Sounds typical for the UK ... ignore the problem, ignore, ignore, ignore, then SLAM enforce Orwellian fascist measures

[Avin]

Can they legally tell you not to leave your home if you are not charged with a crime?

[Avin]

It's positive action to keep customers aware of changes

And shows good corporate concern, I'm fin with it.

[Ricks-Cams]

This I wish is a wrong hunch but it is going to kill millions of people

[TheButcher]

I guess there is more that we do not know about, this is not good news. It could last a year, 7.9 million hospitalized and 80% of the population could be infected.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/b ... o-21698036

The coronavirus crisis in the UK could last for another year and lead to 7.9 million people being hospitalised, it is tonight claimed.

Chiefs at Public Health England (PHE) are said to have suggested as many as 80 per cent of Britons will become infected in the next 12 months, according to a leaked document seen by the Guardian.

It is feared the pandemic will put extra pressure on an already overstretched NHS.

A PHE briefing for senior NHS officials is said to have read: "As many as 80% of the population are expected to be infected with Covid-19 in the next 12 months, and up to 15% (7.9 million people) may require hospitalisation."

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The PHE briefing is stark contrast to what Prof Chris Whitty had previously said (Image: POOL/AFP via Getty Images)

But Professor Chris Whitty, the government’s chief medical adviser, previously said that figure was the worst-case scenario.

PHE continues to prepare authorities to tackle the spread of the flu-like virus, which has now infected more than 1,300 Brits and killed 35 .

Details in the document, understood to have been shared with hospital bosses and personnel from critical services such as the police and fire brigade, have been described "pretty worrying".
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Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, told The Guardian : "For the public to hear that it could last for 12 months, people are going to be really upset about that and pretty worried about that.

"A year is entirely plausible. But that figure isn’t well appreciated or understood.

"I think it will dip in the summer, towards the end of June, and come back in November, in the way that usual seasonal flu does. I think it will be around forever, but become less severe over time, as immunity builds up."
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The publication claims to have seen PHE's briefing, which also allegedly discloses an estimated 500,000 of the five million people deemed vital because they work "in essential services and critical infrastructure" will be off sick at any one time during a month-long peak of the epidemic.

This figure includes one million NHS staff and 1.5million in social care.

The document adds: "It is estimated that at least 10% of people in the UK will have a cough at any one time during the months of peak Covid-19 activity."
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Prof Whitty, who has been in his role since October last year, says the case numbers will go up fast over the next 10 to 14 weeks.

That will mean a peak in late May to early June.

The strategy of all countries is to delay that peak and stretch it out over a longer period of time. By then, new treatments may be available.

[TheButcher]

Can they legally tell you not to leave your home if you are not charged with a crime?

Yes all governments can

[FilmLatex]

Can they legally tell you not to leave your home if you are not charged with a crime?

"Legally" cant really be used on a government when shit hits the fan - they can have laws passed to suit the purpose or hit the panic button and declare a state of emergency which basically lets them curtail or end all civil liberties.

So even if the answer is no according to current laws, the answer is Yes they can.

[trafficseller]

Day after day , numbers of people who are sitting in their house is increasing, which basically means more hours on the internet and behind screens.
Do you think that will affect the adult industry in somehow?

More web traffic but will they be searching for porn or Coronavirus?

Bill had posted a stat the other day, 3X more or Coronavirus on Google than porn.

[trafficseller]

Anything is quite possible when it comes to major geopolitical chess games

[webcamhostess]

To Do:

So simple and so logical you would think every body will do these things.

1. Wash your hands with antibacterial soap fo4 30 seconds under hot water.
2. Use paper towels or napkins to dry dry your hands not a cloth towel.
3. Work from home if your employer allows it.


Not to do:
1. Shake hands or kiss people.
2. Share cups or food. I see so many couples pass food form their plate to their partners at restaurants.
3. Stay as far as possible from public places, like cinemas, concerts, restaurants, malls ...