[NEWS] Ukraine Can’t Win the War

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Post by TheButcher » April 18th, 2025, 11:25 am

Interesting development from the US side. It is either an ultimatum to get the sides to act or a very smart move to walk away and say hey we did our best to end the Biden era war but they were not playing ball. Either way they get movement or wash their hands of this catastrophe. Either way the innocent people in Ukraine lose, that's my opinion.

Russia is not going to stop until it takes all 4 oblasts in totality and moves to take Odessa. They are going to go to Odessa and link up with Transnistria. I have said this from the start of this conflict. Ukraine will not have access to the Black sea. If this thing does not end soon I see Russia going west all the way to the Dnipro and taking the whole eastern part of that river.

I have always said that war is the end result of politicians failing to negotiate,where people die and military companies make money.


"The US will abandon trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal within days unless there are clear signs a truce can be reached, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has warned.

"We're not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end," Rubio said, adding that the US had "other priorities to focus on"."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20x5xn1g92o

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Post by webcamhostess » April 19th, 2025, 9:45 am

XXXtrailers wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2025, 10:10 am
urbanlegend wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2025, 8:51 am
People are dying and it is obvious Russia won so make peace stop the deaths. It's over the fat lady (bear) has sung.
Fuck I would love this shit to stop
Only few days ago Shaheed drone blow up 150 m from my house. And that is routine shit already.

The thing is…
Giving up to a bully NEVER calm him down
It only makes things worse
It only stops when you move his teeth out
And that’s it. This is only option.

russia not only didn’t win
they actually pretty close to losing
that’s why they so desperate with this “deal”
They want time to build new tanks, missiles, recruit more men and try again. Because that’s what bullies do. They take more if they got something.
Stay safe babe




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Post by chilli.domains » April 19th, 2025, 10:49 am

Russian president just gave Ukraine a Easter gift, 2 day ceasefire.



"Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a temporary Easter ceasefire in Ukraine, the Kremlin said Saturday.

According to the Kremlin, the ceasefire will last from 6 p.m. Moscow time (1500 GMT) on Saturday to midnight (2100 GMT) following Easter Sunday."


On KTLA.com just now. https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/ap-ru ... n-ukraine/




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Post by DonMK » April 20th, 2025, 11:18 am

Could Kiev be taken back by Russia?



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Post by XXXtrailers » April 20th, 2025, 11:50 am

webcamhostess wrote: ↑
April 19th, 2025, 9:45 am
Stay safe babe
Thx, I am trying)
So good so far
TheButcher wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2025, 11:25 am
Interesting development from the US side…
There is no way they will take Odessa
Only one big city they occupied is Mariupol and they almost completely destroyed it to do that
They don’t have enough power to do something like this
For now
But it could change after few years in “peace”

chilli.domains wrote: ↑
April 19th, 2025, 10:49 am
Russian president just gave Ukraine a Easter gift, 2 day ceasefire.
How generous. Let’s give him Nobel Prize
DonMK wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2025, 11:18 am
Could Kiev be taken back by Russia?
It’s all good.
They failed even in the beginning :lol:
And tacking BACK?) It’s never been russian.
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Post by TheButcher » April 20th, 2025, 12:14 pm

DonMK wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2025, 11:18 am
Could Kiev be taken back by Russia?



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They won’t because it is not a majority ethnic Russian population, why take over cities where you have to vpay nitrile people hostile to you and incorporate it into Russia where they can have more kids and become a formidable voting block against Russia.


Odessa I have said from the beginning of the SMO will be taken over. I do not see Russia not taking full control of the Black Sea and linking up to Transnistria.

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Post by Matty2 » April 20th, 2025, 3:27 pm

DonMK wrote: ↑
April 20th, 2025, 11:18 am
Could Kiev be taken back by Russia?



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tptr454 Freudian slip?




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Post by AlexO » April 21st, 2025, 8:44 am

It's not our problem let them fight it out and we stop wasting our money over there.
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Post by TheButcher » April 23rd, 2025, 12:13 pm

US is going to move on from Ukraine, Secretary of state Marco Rubio decided not to go to London today to meet the foreign ministers of UK, France, Germany and Ukrraine after Zelensky said he would not recognize Crimea as part of Russia, a key element of the US peace plane to be presented to them today. Zelensky knows if he accepts any peace plan he is toast the will be ousted as leader so is dragging this thing along at the expense of innocent people dying and more of his country being taken over by Russia.

The US is humoring the 3 European countries and telling them this is the last proposal take it or leave it either way your opinion does not matter but we'll pretend we care what you have to say.


I think the end of the road has come, Zelensky has not taken yet another peace plan and every one of those offers gets worse for Ukraine.

"Vance issues Ukraine ultimatum after Rubio snubs key London meeting"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rubio-skip-u ... 41287.html

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Post by XXXtrailers » April 24th, 2025, 3:51 am

He can't recognize any part of Ukraine to be a part of russia
That's against Constitution and he will became a traitor

I would see how any of those who propose it would accept the same deal about their own country
And if we won't stop these fuckers now I probably will
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Post by TheButcher » April 24th, 2025, 7:41 am

XXXtrailers wrote: ↑
April 24th, 2025, 3:51 am
He can't recognize any part of Ukraine to be a part of russia
That's against Constitution and he will became a traitor

I would see how any of those who propose it would accept the same deal about their own country
And if we won't stop these fuckers now I probably will

Trust me I understand and sympathize with Ukrainians, the obvious fact is that I hate wars because people die over failed diplomacy and political solutions, I also know a lot of Ukrainians from here over the years. I have not only made deal with them but friends too. They got led into this war and had no chance from day one. Even president Trump acknowledged this fact last week when he said going to war with a country twenty times your size is a recipe for defeat.

There is no winning solution for Ukraine,the west has thrown all the weapons, ammunition, money, intelligence they could over the past 3 plus years and every day more innocent people are dying and more territory is being lost to Russia. In accounting there is a saying when a business is losing money, stop the bleeding. No pun intended as this is human lives we are talking about.

Obviously not being Ukrainian or Russian I can talk from an outsiders perspective, if you are Ukrainian or Russian it is personal and very emotional, I get it, but the death and destruction needs to stop. The sooner it stops the better, I said this form day one, Ukraine will lose and Russia will win, it's simple fact Russia is a super power and Ukraine is not. One has nuclear weapons the other does not, one had about 40 million people the other 145 million. The numbers do not stack up for a Ukrainian win, sorry to be blunt and not trying to offend anyone.

Stop the war at any cost because I am also on record here, Russia has an eye to go to Odessa and link up with their territory Transnistria, the longer this thing goes on that will become a reality and I still feel Russia will go all the way to the Dnipro river take everything to the east of it. Accept and take the losses as hard and bad as they are stop the carnage. I sincerely mean it, it is a hard pill to swallow but only solution. Amend the constitution, but then another problem arises, Zelensky has declared martial law and according to the Russian, also now Americans and other countries he is not the legitimate president of Ukraine, only the Verkhovna Rada can pass laws which would be constitutionally viable.

Whether we like it of not the fact, "to the victor go the spoils" Russia is the victor they get the prize and make the rules on how this ends. Borders are redrawn all the time in history, mostly after a war, this will happen again. The odds of Russia retreating or giving up any territory it has captured are from none to zero.

I wish all people in Ukraine and Russia peace, they are after all Slavic cousins they can get along together as they have in the past.

Peace

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Post by nudelinks » April 25th, 2025, 8:44 am

Trump said before he was elected he would end the war in a day, then it was in 100 days, I heard he has put an April 30 deadline now. So what comes after April 30 if the 2 sides do not end the war?




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Post by pokerking » April 26th, 2025, 8:47 am

Ukraine lost their Kursk offensive, Russia claims they took all of Kursk back.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukrainian- ... ia-claims/




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Post by AlexO » April 27th, 2025, 11:11 am

The war will not end soon, the 2 sides are not even close to an understanding.
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