Why would Russia agree to a cease fire when they are demolishing the Ukrainian army?TheButcher wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 2:22 pmAfter the meeting in Saudi Arabia the US will restart intelligence sharing and military aid right away.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/world/uk ... index.html
The proposal is for an immediate cease fire to start negotiating an end to the war. I can not see the Russians buying that one.
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Only if they are dumb it will not happen.Nakedtruth wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 7:25 pmWhy would Russia agree to a cease fire when they are demolishing the Ukrainian army?TheButcher wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 2:22 pmAfter the meeting in Saudi Arabia the US will restart intelligence sharing and military aid right away.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/world/uk ... index.html
The proposal is for an immediate cease fire to start negotiating an end to the war. I can not see the Russians buying that one.
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Nakedtruth wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 7:25 pmWhy would Russia agree to a cease fire when they are demolishing the Ukrainian army?TheButcher wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 2:22 pmAfter the meeting in Saudi Arabia the US will restart intelligence sharing and military aid right away.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/world/uk ... index.html
The proposal is for an immediate cease fire to start negotiating an end to the war. I can not see the Russians buying that one.
They will never agree to a cease fire, no one would in their position. They are going to stick to the conditions outlined at the start of the SMO in 2022.
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If they dont agree to a cease fire in a war that THEY started, then we should flood Ukraine with every weapon and ammunition that they needTheButcher wrote: ↑March 12th, 2025, 10:39 amNakedtruth wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 7:25 pmWhy would Russia agree to a cease fire when they are demolishing the Ukrainian army?TheButcher wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 2:22 pmAfter the meeting in Saudi Arabia the US will restart intelligence sharing and military aid right away.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/world/uk ... index.html
The proposal is for an immediate cease fire to start negotiating an end to the war. I can not see the Russians buying that one.
They will never agree to a cease fire, no one would in their position. They are going to stick to the conditions outlined at the start of the SMO in 2022.
This is effectively calling Putin's bluff. He says he wants peace and now we will see. If he says no then the European stance of stopping Putin by force will have been proved justified. How else are you going to bring about peace ???
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A. No one with a half brain cell in Russia' position on the ground would agree to a cease fire.tacnet wrote: ↑March 12th, 2025, 11:33 amIf they dont agree to a cease fire in a war that THEY started, then we should flood Ukraine with every weapon and ammunition that they needTheButcher wrote: ↑March 12th, 2025, 10:39 amNakedtruth wrote: ↑March 11th, 2025, 7:25 pm
Why would Russia agree to a cease fire when they are demolishing the Ukrainian army?
They will never agree to a cease fire, no one would in their position. They are going to stick to the conditions outlined at the start of the SMO in 2022.
This is effectively calling Putin's bluff. He says he wants peace and now we will see. If he says no then the European stance of stopping Putin by force will have been proved justified. How else are you going to bring about peace ???
B. What bluff, Ukraine is getting their ass handed to them on the battlefield, they are the ones praying for a reprieve and time to rearm not to mention throw innocent men into vans take them to the tfrontlines to be slaughtered in hours.
This ceasefire proposal is a non-starter for Russia.
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You need to stop watching political news outlets like fox news. They are the worst when it comes to miss-information and fake newsTheButcher wrote: ↑March 12th, 2025, 11:36 amA. No one with a half brain cell in Russia' position on the ground would agree to a cease fire.tacnet wrote: ↑March 12th, 2025, 11:33 amIf they dont agree to a cease fire in a war that THEY started, then we should flood Ukraine with every weapon and ammunition that they needTheButcher wrote: ↑March 12th, 2025, 10:39 am
They will never agree to a cease fire, no one would in their position. They are going to stick to the conditions outlined at the start of the SMO in 2022.
This is effectively calling Putin's bluff. He says he wants peace and now we will see. If he says no then the European stance of stopping Putin by force will have been proved justified. How else are you going to bring about peace ???
B. What bluff, Ukraine is getting their ass handed to them on the battlefield, they are the ones praying for a reprieve and time to rearm not to mention throw innocent men into vans take them to the tfrontlines to be slaughtered in hours.
This ceasefire proposal is a non-starter for Russia.
According to Trump, Putin has already said he wants to stop the war. Russia has lost nearly 1 million soldiers and STILL only control around 20% of Ukraine. You yourself have said that you want to see an end to the dying. Well now is the chance for that to happen. If Putin does not now come to the table then it shows that he is not interested in peace and the only other alternative is for him to be stopped by force.
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Watch this and you will understand what is going on. Ukraine is a proxy war, no one cares about Ukrainians.
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As expected, Putin has basically refused the ceasefire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgj5w6veqw6t
He needs to be stopped by force. We cannot live in a world where "might is right" and a stronger country can annex a weaker country by force. That's the whole reason we fought WW2. To stop Germany and Japan from invading weaker countries in order to annex them. It's exactly why NATO was setup in the first place and its kept the peace for the last 80 years. We need to stop this now before a new global war kicks off
He needs to be stopped by force. We cannot live in a world where "might is right" and a stronger country can annex a weaker country by force. That's the whole reason we fought WW2. To stop Germany and Japan from invading weaker countries in order to annex them. It's exactly why NATO was setup in the first place and its kept the peace for the last 80 years. We need to stop this now before a new global war kicks off
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Putin did not say no to a 30 day cease fire but laid out some conditions, so will it happen it's anyone's guess.
"In an address full of nuance, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday thanked President Donald Trump for his efforts to end the hostilities in Ukraine, but said he wanted lasting peace over a 30-day ceasefire.
"The idea itself is correct, and we certainly support it," Putin said in a carefully worded message during a news conference in Moscow. "But there are issues that we need to discuss, and I think that we need to discuss it with our American colleagues and partners."
"We agree with the proposals to halt the fighting, but we proceed from the assumption that the ceasefire should lead to lasting peace and remove the root causes of the crisis," Putin added. "
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-tha ... ot-say-yes
"In an address full of nuance, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday thanked President Donald Trump for his efforts to end the hostilities in Ukraine, but said he wanted lasting peace over a 30-day ceasefire.
"The idea itself is correct, and we certainly support it," Putin said in a carefully worded message during a news conference in Moscow. "But there are issues that we need to discuss, and I think that we need to discuss it with our American colleagues and partners."
"We agree with the proposals to halt the fighting, but we proceed from the assumption that the ceasefire should lead to lasting peace and remove the root causes of the crisis," Putin added. "
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-tha ... ot-say-yes
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shoopa wrote: ↑March 13th, 2025, 6:01 pmPutin did not say no to a 30 day cease fire but laid out some conditions, so will it happen it's anyone's guess.
"In an address full of nuance, Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday thanked President Donald Trump for his efforts to end the hostilities in Ukraine, but said he wanted lasting peace over a 30-day ceasefire.
"The idea itself is correct, and we certainly support it," Putin said in a carefully worded message during a news conference in Moscow. "But there are issues that we need to discuss, and I think that we need to discuss it with our American colleagues and partners."
"We agree with the proposals to halt the fighting, but we proceed from the assumption that the ceasefire should lead to lasting peace and remove the root causes of the crisis," Putin added. "
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-tha ... ot-say-yes
He said no in a polite diplomatic tone not to embarrass Trump. Putin laid out his conditions for an end to this conflict day one, he is not going to deviate from those points especially after they are absolutely winning. Ukraine needs to come back say we accept and agree to a full capitulation for this to end, or Russia will go all the way to the Dnipro river and take Odessa if not more. I give it 6 months maximum before Ukraine folds. The winning side never accepts a cease fire they make the losing side bend over and capitulate, it's how all wars have ended in history.
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nobody is starting WW3 over that shithole! russia can't take the whole ukraine! don't start lying!
tacnet wrote: ↑March 13th, 2025, 2:21 pmAs expected, Putin has basically refused the ceasefire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgj5w6veqw6t
He needs to be stopped by force. We cannot live in a world where "might is right" and a stronger country can annex a weaker country by force. That's the whole reason we fought WW2. To stop Germany and Japan from invading weaker countries in order to annex them. It's exactly why NATO was setup in the first place and its kept the peace for the last 80 years. We need to stop this now before a new global war kicks off
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I agree with one part Russia only wants the ethnic Russian population areas not all of Ukraine.BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑March 13th, 2025, 7:10 pmnobody is starting WW3 over that shithole! russia can't take the whole ukraine! don't start lying!![]()
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tacnet wrote: ↑March 13th, 2025, 2:21 pmAs expected, Putin has basically refused the ceasefire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgj5w6veqw6t
He needs to be stopped by force. We cannot live in a world where "might is right" and a stronger country can annex a weaker country by force. That's the whole reason we fought WW2. To stop Germany and Japan from invading weaker countries in order to annex them. It's exactly why NATO was setup in the first place and its kept the peace for the last 80 years. We need to stop this now before a new global war kicks off
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That's EXACTLY what Hitler said about Czechoslovakia. He said he only wanted the ethnic German parts of the country (ie the Sudetenland). As soon as we gave him that, he went and invaded the rest of the country and then Poland kicking off WW2TheButcher wrote: ↑March 14th, 2025, 10:24 amI agree with one part Russia only wants the ethnic Russian population areas not all of Ukraine.BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑March 13th, 2025, 7:10 pmnobody is starting WW3 over that shithole! russia can't take the whole ukraine! don't start lying!![]()
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tacnet wrote: ↑March 13th, 2025, 2:21 pmAs expected, Putin has basically refused the ceasefire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgj5w6veqw6t
He needs to be stopped by force. We cannot live in a world where "might is right" and a stronger country can annex a weaker country by force. That's the whole reason we fought WW2. To stop Germany and Japan from invading weaker countries in order to annex them. It's exactly why NATO was setup in the first place and its kept the peace for the last 80 years. We need to stop this now before a new global war kicks off
If Putin was only interested in the Donbas and eastern Ukraine, then he wouldn't have sent his tanks towards Kyiv at the start of the war. Everybody knows what Putin's aims are, he made them clear in his 2021 essay. He wants to reclaim the former soviet union countries. NOBODY believes he will stop at Eastern Ukraine and NOBODY believes he will adhere to any kind of peace deal that doesn't give him the whole of Ukraine
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ok im gone for the weekend! you want WW3! thank god the people at the top do not think like you!
tacnet wrote: ↑March 14th, 2025, 2:32 pmThat's EXACTLY what Hitler said about Czechoslovakia. He said he only wanted the ethnic German parts of the country (ie the Sudetenland). As soon as we gave him that, he went and invaded the rest of the country and then Poland kicking off WW2TheButcher wrote: ↑March 14th, 2025, 10:24 amI agree with one part Russia only wants the ethnic Russian population areas not all of Ukraine.BrasSmonkey wrote: ↑March 13th, 2025, 7:10 pmnobody is starting WW3 over that shithole! russia can't take the whole ukraine! don't start lying!![]()
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If Putin was only interested in the Donbas and eastern Ukraine, then he wouldn't have sent his tanks towards Kyiv at the start of the war. Everybody knows what Putin's aims are, he made them clear in his 2021 essay. He wants to reclaim the former soviet union countries. NOBODY believes he will stop at Eastern Ukraine and NOBODY believes he will adhere to any kind of peace deal that doesn't give him the whole of Ukraine
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Where you going this weekend brothaBrasSmonkey wrote: ↑March 14th, 2025, 6:28 pmok im gone for the weekend! you want WW3! thank god the people at the top do not think like you!tacnet wrote: ↑March 14th, 2025, 2:32 pmThat's EXACTLY what Hitler said about Czechoslovakia. He said he only wanted the ethnic German parts of the country (ie the Sudetenland). As soon as we gave him that, he went and invaded the rest of the country and then Poland kicking off WW2TheButcher wrote: ↑March 14th, 2025, 10:24 am
I agree with one part Russia only wants the ethnic Russian population areas not all of Ukraine.
If Putin was only interested in the Donbas and eastern Ukraine, then he wouldn't have sent his tanks towards Kyiv at the start of the war. Everybody knows what Putin's aims are, he made them clear in his 2021 essay. He wants to reclaim the former soviet union countries. NOBODY believes he will stop at Eastern Ukraine and NOBODY believes he will adhere to any kind of peace deal that doesn't give him the whole of Ukraine