The Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread (Keep all related posts here)
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Fact is this is killing people and the economy. You will never have an economy if this is not brought under control. Dead people do not work or buy!
Stop looking for reps if they don't care why waste your time and traffic at their program, fuck that.
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Fact is the FLU this year killed more people.
Fact is car accidents kill more people.
Fact is there are many more causes of death that kill more people.
Fact is the overall death rate in America is at an all time LOW.
Fact is shutting down elective procedures at hospitals is saving people.
Fact is we really do not need an economy in the manner we are told we do.
Fact is a Trillion dollars could pay of all of our dept, like your house payment,instead politicians gave a large portion of the money to themselves and their friends.
Fact is that "this" is not killing near as many people as we are being led to believe.
Fuck the Economy!
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It is a coronavirus it will NEVER end!
They have been here for thousands of years and are NOT going away. This is now a constant or season disease, just like the FLU and the other 6 Coronaviruses.
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Two studies show 50 times more Angelenos may be infected with the coronavirus than the stats show.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-studies- ... 18566.html
"The number of COVID-19 cases in Los Angeles County may be more than 50 times greater than the official count, according to preliminary results from a new study by the University of Southern California, which estimates that as many as 442,000 adult residents of Los Angeles County may have already been infected.
The implication, as lead USC investigator Neeraj Sood told reporters Monday, is that “the true extent of the infection in our communities” is far greater than previously known.
“We actually found that about 5 percent of Angelenos have in fact, probably, at some time, been infected with COVID-19,” explained Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health, which partnered with USC on the study. So now “we are able to understand what the real denominator is” in calculating the rate at which people who are infected develop symptoms, require hospitalization and die.
But should we trust those conclusions?
Dressed in protective gear, Jacquelyn Augustine, a university student working on her master’s degree, displays information for arranging COVID-19 testing in Los Angeles, April 8. (Frederic J. Brown/AFP)
Dressed in protective gear, Jacquelyn Augustine, a university student working on her master’s degree, displays information for arranging COVID-19 testing in Los Angeles, April 8. (Frederic J. Brown/AFP)
If accurate, these estimates would fundamentally change our understanding of the coronavirus. Experts have long suspected that real-time testing is only catching a fraction of the total infections. But they have tended to put that fraction somewhere between one in five and one in 20. If in reality we’re only identifying one in 50 infections, or fewer, that would make COVID-19 a lot less deadly than previously believed while also making it a lot more contagious (and asymptomatic “silent carriers” a lot more widespread). That would be a paradigm shift in how to combat the virus.
The problem, though, is that these studies may not be accurate.
Known as a “seroprevalance survey” or “serosurvey,” the preliminary USC study is the second of its kind to come out in the past few days. The first was conducted by Stanford University researchers in Santa Clara County, Calif. — aka Silicon Valley — and released Friday. Together they represent the first attempts at this kind of research in the U.S.
Both serosurveys worked the same way. Researchers recruited hundreds or thousands of local residents to participate. They tried to ensure their “sample” was representative of the county’s overall population. They tested all participants with the same serology test, which is supposed to reveal who has already been infected by detecting antibodies in their bloodstream — even if they never showed symptoms or were never tested for an ongoing infection by the more typical nasal-swab method. Then the researchers tallied up the total number of positive test results, divided it by the total number of participants and “scaled” that percentage to the population of the entire county to estimate the overall seroprevalence of COVID-19 in the area.
Both studies also produced similar — and similarly startling — numbers. In Los Angeles, the USC team found that 4.1 percent of its 863 study participants tested positive; applied to the county as a whole, and adjusted for statistical margin of error, that would mean that anywhere from 2.8 percent (221,000) to 5.6 percent (442,000) of Angelenos have been infected, according to the USC researchers. (By comparison, 423,000 people had tested positive for COVID-19 nationwide as of April 9, when the study concluded.) Meanwhile in Santa Clara, the Stanford team tested 3,330 residents and estimated that 2.5 percent (48,000) to 4 percent (81,000) of the county’s population has been infected — or 50 to 85 times the official number of confirmed cases there. ...."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-studies- ... 18566.html
"The number of COVID-19 cases in Los Angeles County may be more than 50 times greater than the official count, according to preliminary results from a new study by the University of Southern California, which estimates that as many as 442,000 adult residents of Los Angeles County may have already been infected.
The implication, as lead USC investigator Neeraj Sood told reporters Monday, is that “the true extent of the infection in our communities” is far greater than previously known.
“We actually found that about 5 percent of Angelenos have in fact, probably, at some time, been infected with COVID-19,” explained Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health, which partnered with USC on the study. So now “we are able to understand what the real denominator is” in calculating the rate at which people who are infected develop symptoms, require hospitalization and die.
But should we trust those conclusions?
Dressed in protective gear, Jacquelyn Augustine, a university student working on her master’s degree, displays information for arranging COVID-19 testing in Los Angeles, April 8. (Frederic J. Brown/AFP)
Dressed in protective gear, Jacquelyn Augustine, a university student working on her master’s degree, displays information for arranging COVID-19 testing in Los Angeles, April 8. (Frederic J. Brown/AFP)
If accurate, these estimates would fundamentally change our understanding of the coronavirus. Experts have long suspected that real-time testing is only catching a fraction of the total infections. But they have tended to put that fraction somewhere between one in five and one in 20. If in reality we’re only identifying one in 50 infections, or fewer, that would make COVID-19 a lot less deadly than previously believed while also making it a lot more contagious (and asymptomatic “silent carriers” a lot more widespread). That would be a paradigm shift in how to combat the virus.
The problem, though, is that these studies may not be accurate.
Known as a “seroprevalance survey” or “serosurvey,” the preliminary USC study is the second of its kind to come out in the past few days. The first was conducted by Stanford University researchers in Santa Clara County, Calif. — aka Silicon Valley — and released Friday. Together they represent the first attempts at this kind of research in the U.S.
Both serosurveys worked the same way. Researchers recruited hundreds or thousands of local residents to participate. They tried to ensure their “sample” was representative of the county’s overall population. They tested all participants with the same serology test, which is supposed to reveal who has already been infected by detecting antibodies in their bloodstream — even if they never showed symptoms or were never tested for an ongoing infection by the more typical nasal-swab method. Then the researchers tallied up the total number of positive test results, divided it by the total number of participants and “scaled” that percentage to the population of the entire county to estimate the overall seroprevalence of COVID-19 in the area.
Both studies also produced similar — and similarly startling — numbers. In Los Angeles, the USC team found that 4.1 percent of its 863 study participants tested positive; applied to the county as a whole, and adjusted for statistical margin of error, that would mean that anywhere from 2.8 percent (221,000) to 5.6 percent (442,000) of Angelenos have been infected, according to the USC researchers. (By comparison, 423,000 people had tested positive for COVID-19 nationwide as of April 9, when the study concluded.) Meanwhile in Santa Clara, the Stanford team tested 3,330 residents and estimated that 2.5 percent (48,000) to 4 percent (81,000) of the county’s population has been infected — or 50 to 85 times the official number of confirmed cases there. ...."
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You have to watch this clip, it's a fake btw but funny
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The video is obviously doctored bu never the less fun to watch
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The projected peak days seem to have not come true
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The best face masks are the N95's and they are in short supply, so we are suppose to wear a cloth face covering. How does a cloth protect us from catching the virus, this makes no sense to me.
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Has any body asked them selves which companies and countries stand to make money from this virus?
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This article is not good news for people with hypertension, bad BMI and diabetes
https://www.foxnews.com/health/nearly-a ... tudy-finds
"A new study by a medical journal revealed that most of the people in New York City who were hospitalized due to coronavirus had one or more underlying health issues.
Health records from 5,700 patients hospitalized within the Northwell Health system -- which housed the most patients in the country throughout the pandemic -- showed that 94 percent of patients had more than one disease other than COVID-19, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).
NYC TO HOST MACY'S ANNUAL FOURTH OF JULY FIREWORKS DESPITE CORONAVIRUS
Data taken from March to early April showed that the median age of patients was 63 years old and 53 percent of all coronavirus patients suffered from hypertension, the most prevalent of the ailments among patients.
In addition, 42 percent of coronavirus patients who had body mass index (BMI) data on file suffered from obesity while 32 percent of all patients suffered from diabetes.
The study also revealed that the overwhelming majority of patients who were on ventilators eventually died, and those who did more often had diabetes.
Data gathered from 2,634 patients who either died or were discharged from the hospital showed that 12 percent of them were placed on ventilators and of those who were, 88 percent of them died."
https://www.foxnews.com/health/nearly-a ... tudy-finds
"A new study by a medical journal revealed that most of the people in New York City who were hospitalized due to coronavirus had one or more underlying health issues.
Health records from 5,700 patients hospitalized within the Northwell Health system -- which housed the most patients in the country throughout the pandemic -- showed that 94 percent of patients had more than one disease other than COVID-19, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).
NYC TO HOST MACY'S ANNUAL FOURTH OF JULY FIREWORKS DESPITE CORONAVIRUS
Data taken from March to early April showed that the median age of patients was 63 years old and 53 percent of all coronavirus patients suffered from hypertension, the most prevalent of the ailments among patients.
In addition, 42 percent of coronavirus patients who had body mass index (BMI) data on file suffered from obesity while 32 percent of all patients suffered from diabetes.
The study also revealed that the overwhelming majority of patients who were on ventilators eventually died, and those who did more often had diabetes.
Data gathered from 2,634 patients who either died or were discharged from the hospital showed that 12 percent of them were placed on ventilators and of those who were, 88 percent of them died."
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The worst is over for now, we are starting to get over the peak
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2.87 million cases world wide
in the next hour it'll top 200,000 deaths worldwide
We'll pass the 1 million cases here in America by tomorrow
and already over 52K deaths
You guys think this is a hoax, give it a break.
in the next hour it'll top 200,000 deaths worldwide
We'll pass the 1 million cases here in America by tomorrow
and already over 52K deaths
You guys think this is a hoax, give it a break.
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Big business, banks, medical companies, hospitals (yes they are not doing it free) big pharma.......fantastico wrote: ↑April 23rd, 2020, 10:10 amHas any body asked them selves which companies and countries stand to make money from this virus?
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People like you need to give it a break. What did your post do to help this thread or anyone for that matter?
YOU are the reason this is getting so far out of control.
You and the other damn repeaters.
I have shared enough data on this site linking to reputable sources that show without a doubt that the media is misleading everyone.
Data that shows that your numbers are BULL SHIT!
No one has said the virus does not exist, at least no one I have seen on this site.
No one is saying Sars-Cov-2 is a hoax.
You even know what Sars-Cov-2 is? Don't go Google it now. Just answer the question. If it is NO or you have to guess or assume, then why even comment.
You are helping the bad people get what they want.
It is our job to question authority or authority will get out of control.
Do some research before you share misinformation, repeat it or give advice you should have kept to yourself.
The media and others are saying coronavirus. Why are they being vague? To mislead the ignorant I suspect. Why not use the name of the virus. Is it really that hard to think people are smart enough to differentiate between the 7 coronaviruses that affect humans?
Of course it is.
Now they can count anyone with coronavirus symptoms and increase the number exponentially because the stupid people out number the good not stupid people.
If YOU have no personal awareness of the hoax, then shut up. Do not share your ignorance as ignorance is contagious.
Why do you think the owner of this site created a thread about
No Coronavirus offers, products and related items for sale on here please?
Could it be because of all the hoaxes and scam that ALWAYS COME WITH issues like this.
Could it be that he did not want the hoaxes to be posted on his site?
Could it be that he had the foreknowledge that hoaxes would reach his site if he did not take action?
Oh shit! Did you spend all that money you received from that Nigeria Prince on those fake Viagra pills you found in that HOAX email?
What have YOU done to identify a HOAX related to this pandemic? I bet nothing as you read like a lazy repeater.
It has been proven that medical documents are being falsified by medical staff so that their facilities will receive Government money. $13k for a hospital to check a box if someone has symptoms of any of the 7 coronaviruses?
I bet you would click that button all day long and maybe even skip dinner to click it some more.
HELLO. Ever hear of HUMAN GREED!
It has been proven that Government officials are hoarding supplies and then inflating their numbers to receive more supplies. This is the definition of a hoax. Wake up!
This is not a game. We are not playing. Sars-COV2 is real and dangerous!
As is the hoax that is engulfing the pandemic.
The corruption, the complacency, the ignorance, Doctors lying to us and falsifying documentation, the profiteering by the banks and giant billion dollar corporations. Did you read above about the Government officials?
If this considered part of a hoax, then what is? Not really asking!
Ever think to yourself "what if I am wrong and they are correct. What would it hurt to actually open my eyes and do some damn research! Find out what corruption is going on."
I bet not, damn sheeple.
"He who knows only his own side of the case, knows little of it."
Start here
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... tive+80.33
If the false positive rates of the tests that have been and are being reported on new tests are accurate and we are being lied to about the accuracy of the tests, what is the real accuracy of the tests?
How many people actually have died?
Are you aware that America is also in a FLU epidemic?
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
Find the March records. The FLU is killing more people than even the inflated numbers of COVID-19.
Search past page one of the SERPs read more than one or seven documents, NOT articles or some bloggers post and certainly nothing from the media.
DIG for it!
Read how many people are NOT tested, period. Read how that box is checked with symptoms only.
Now , if you can do math you will see that your numbers you are repeating,are seriously way more than they should be, scientifically speaking.
Do you know how to calculate 80% of a number? That is how much these numbers are inflated.
Most repeaters do not know how to do math thus why they repeat.
To this day the test are known to NOT be accurate. false positives and false negatives.
I want accurate testing.
I want to know the scientific truth.
If we, meaning people like you and the other repeaters, do nothing and just let the real hoaxes continue and continue to give up our values in the name of security then we have already lost our freedoms and security.