The Coronavirus / COVID-19 Thread (Keep all related posts here)

[TheButcher]

This shit is too much, NY Governor Andrew Cuomo and his younger brother Chris Cuomo the CNN anchor arguing it out on live TV.


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[DeSexGuide]

You bet Thank Giving dinner will be fun tat their house if they get together

[DeSexGuide]

Why are public officials not following their own advice of "Social distancing" and standing so close to each other when giving updates?

[BrentG]

What changed in the past 2 days, president trump wants the country to go back to business on April 14th, by all accounts things will not have peaked by then. So is this a smart move?

[fetishnews]

What the fuck

[fetishnews]

Report I saw said there was no new COVI-19 cases in Wuhan on Tuesday, so this virus can be contained and wiped out with effective measures, there is hope for us all.Bad news for us is there were 163 deaths in our country yesterday.

[britporn_mike]

Prince Charles has tested positive for the Coronavirus after meeting Prince Albert of Monaco 2 weeks ago who himself has the virus.

[plumpprincessxxx]

They have brotherly issues

[TheButcher]

Some people are dumb and stupid. Just read this line "Conservative supporters of President Trump are increasingly volunteering to risk death — and implicitly the deaths of elderly and at-risk Americans — from the coronavirus if it will help the economy."



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-allies ... 42063.html

In coronavirus pandemic, Trump allies say they're ready to die for the economy
Christopher Wilson
Christopher WilsonSenior Writer
Yahoo NewsMarch 25, 2020, 11:54 AM EDT

Conservative supporters of President Trump are increasingly volunteering to risk death — and implicitly the deaths of elderly and at-risk Americans — from the coronavirus if it will help the economy.

The push for Americans to get back to work in the face of an unprecedented economic downturn began last week but accelerated on Sunday evening, after the president began pushing the message that “we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself.” On Tuesday, Trump said he “would love to have the country opened up by Easter,” which falls on April 12. Public health experts say it is impossible to predict now when it will be safe to end social distancing measures but are virtually unanimous in believing they will be needed beyond then.

On Monday evening, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick explained how the trade-off between saving lives and spurring the economy worked in his mind.

“I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country like me … that what we all care about and what we all love more than anything are those children,” said Patrick, who turns 70 next week, on Tucker Carlson’s primetime Fox News show. “My message is that: Let’s get back to work. Let’s get back to living. Let’s be smart about it, and those of us who are 70-plus, we’ll take care of ourselves, but don’t sacrifice the country. Don’t do that. Don’t ruin this great American dream.”

He then said he would be willing to risk his life to keep the economy going.

“No one reached out to me and said, ‘As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?’” said Patrick. “And if that’s the exchange, I’m all in.”

Fox News commentator Brit Hume supported Patrick on Carlson’s show the following night.

“The utter collapse of the country’s economy — which many think will happen if this goes on much longer — is an intolerable result,” the 76-year-old Hume said. “[Patrick] is saying, for his own part, that he would be willing to take a risk of getting the disease if that’s what it took to allow the economy to move forward. He said that because he is late in life, that he would be perhaps more willing than he might have been at a younger age, which seems to me to be an entirely reasonable viewpoint.”
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, Brit Hume and Glenn Beck. (Loren Elliott/Getty Images, Fox News, Stefani Reynolds/Bloomberg via Getty Images)
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, Brit Hume and Glenn Beck. (Loren Elliott/Getty Images, Fox News, Stefani Reynolds/Bloomberg via Getty Images)

On the Tuesday airing of his program on BlazeTV, right-wing commentator Glenn Beck said that at 56 he is in the “danger zone” for the virus and would also make the sacrifice.

“I would rather have my children stay home and all of us who are over 50 go in and keep this economy going and working,” Beck said. “Even if we all get sick, I would rather die than kill the country. Because it’s not the economy that’s dying, it’s the country.”

A corollary argument is that the loss of jobs and incomes from prolonged social isolation would eventually lead to more deaths — from poverty and psychological distress — than might result from COVID-19.

In the video, Beck is alone in a room, socially distant from anyone who could give him the virus and not apparently facing the same risks as people without TV shows, such as health care workers, police and grocery store workers.

Sacrificing the elderly for the good of the economy runs counter to Beck’s position a decade ago, when he rose to prominence during President Barack Obama’s tenure by railing against so-called death panels that he said would be created under the Affordable Care Act to ration health care. “We care about the elderly,” said Beck in 2009, adding, “We value life in this country, and when you start devaluing life, then you’re in trouble.”

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo took issue with the ethical choices implied by Trump’s priorities, saying, “My mother is not expendable and your mother is not expendable and our brothers and sisters are not expendable, and we’re not going to accept a premise that human life is disposable, and we’re not going to put a dollar figure on human life.”

The policy dilemma replicates on a national scale a well-known exercise in ethics known as the “trolley problem,” which asks whether it is justified to kill another person to avoid a larger number of deaths. It posits a situation in which a runaway vehicle is heading toward a large number of people — unless someone throws a switch that will divert it onto a different track, where only one person would be endangered.

As a matter of public health, experts point out that social distancing rules are in place to protect the entire population, not just the elderly. People 60 and older are at increased risk of mortality from the coronavirus, but so are younger people with other health problems, and people as young as teenagers have contracted the illness.

In economic terms, analyses such as those by Beck and Hume don’t take into account the second-order economic effects of a pandemic that if unchecked could be fatal to as many as 2 million Americans, both directly and indirectly, by overwhelming the hospital system. Whether that would ultimately be better or worse for business than the short-term partial lockdown the economy is now in is, of course, unknowable.

It is also not a binary choice between a massive economic downturn and mass death. The U.S. could follow the lead of other nations, guaranteeing wages during the period of social isolation while strengthening social programs to help working-class Americans get by. Such a program would likely be anathema to economic conservatives, however.

[pussylover]

Why are there a lack of hospital beds, nurses, doctors, masks, gloves, respirators every where. Why wasn't there planning by all levels of government for a pandemic. Fuck we pay enough in taxes, where is the money and why was it not spent right.

What if there is WW3 fuck nothing would be ready to save lives.

[blackbooty]

Fake drama?

[bill]

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[CDSally]

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When I bring home groceries, I take them out the reuseable bags I have, put them on the hallway floor, take back the bags to my car, put them in the trunk. ome in wash my habds and remove the items out their bags or whatever they are in place them in clean zip lock bags.

[bill]

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When I bring home groceries, I take them out the reuseable bags I have, put them on the hallway floor, take back the bags to my car, put them in the trunk. ome in wash my habds and remove the items out their bags or whatever they are in place them in clean zip lock bags.

that is good responsible safety you are doing

you can also wash your reuseable bags in soap and water, and soak them for a few hours

[TheButcher]

A couple of points today on this situation.

1. People in England questioned if Prince Charles and Camilla met the government criteria to be tested for the Coronavirus. Are these people really that stupid or what. He is the next inline to the throne and future King of England, does he need some check list to get tested, he can get tested every 15 minutes if he wants for all I am concerned. Get real people.

2. Opening up business and removing restrictions is a really stupid idea, things are starting to get worse all over, this is time for everyone and everything to be locked down. Or else this disease will never end. Food stores, pharmacies and gas stations all that should stay open period.

3. Plan for the long haul, this is not going to end any time soon. It looks very likely life as we knew it will not return until next summer, like in a year and a few months.

Peace