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#226

Post by tacnet » August 14th, 2023, 1:18 pm

Zug wrote: ↑
August 13th, 2023, 3:31 pm
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Thats correct. If you dont use the out.php file then TE3 has no way of tracking or skimming your outgoing traffic

So if users are not using skimming then they could just hard link back to their link trades and bypass out.php altogether. You would loose a lot of the functionality like productivity tracking etc
I follow you guys but what is the point of using the script for just hard links and not using it to trade traffic based on productivity.
I've always used the out.php like as in site.com/te3/out.php?id=tradelink.com .. te does not skim from that. I suppose you could bypass the out.php all together, but I don't see why that would be beneficial. You have to use out.php?s=100& whatever other parameter you want to use. I guess you could use ?s=100&id=tradelink.com when building your trade lists .. but then 2% of those outs would go to TE skim links.
Ahh ok, I assumed te were skimming their 2% from everything that goes through the out.php (we use paid versions so ive no idea) but obviously not

In that case your right, no real benefit to bypassing the out.php as far as i can see

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Post by Zug » August 14th, 2023, 3:53 pm

cimage wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 7:43 am
If the guy from TE was active we could clear these questions up in a minute.
It's gonna take longer than a minute. Better for them to wait until they are done working out things on their end before trying to tackle support questions. Maybe they are working out a pay-for-support system, among other things. If they replied in this thread, they would get swamped with questions. Pretty sure they know that.
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Post by Zug » August 14th, 2023, 4:04 pm

SlightLy wrote: ↑
June 29th, 2023, 2:45 pm
... The script will not run on PHP 8 without an update from Tradeexpert. The script is encrypted with Ioncube and needs an update.

I don't know the source code of the script, but it's quite possible that there is a regular communication between the Script and the Tradeexpert servers. As long as the Tradeexpert servers are online and accessible, this will not cause any problems. However, if the servers should be down at some point, the script is very likely to no longer be usable.

Tradeexpert is really one of the best scripts that are still on the market. Too bad you can't get the source code for a fee.
I think if they wanted to pull that plug they would have done so long ago. I think they are smart by simply keeping those servers up and running. Besides they probably have other things on them also. Doesn't make sense to just disconnect TE from their server. Like ya said, "Tradeexpert is really one of the best scripts that are still on the market." So why pull that plug? They know there is still demand for it.




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Post by tacnet » August 14th, 2023, 4:35 pm

Zug wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 4:04 pm
SlightLy wrote: ↑
June 29th, 2023, 2:45 pm
... The script will not run on PHP 8 without an update from Tradeexpert. The script is encrypted with Ioncube and needs an update.

I don't know the source code of the script, but it's quite possible that there is a regular communication between the Script and the Tradeexpert servers. As long as the Tradeexpert servers are online and accessible, this will not cause any problems. However, if the servers should be down at some point, the script is very likely to no longer be usable.

Tradeexpert is really one of the best scripts that are still on the market. Too bad you can't get the source code for a fee.
I think if they wanted to pull that plug they would have done so long ago. I think they are smart by simply keeping those servers up and running. Besides they probably have other things on them also. Doesn't make sense to just disconnect TE from their server. Like ya said, "Tradeexpert is really one of the best scripts that are still on the market." So why pull that plug? They know there is still demand for it.
I hope your right.

The only thing that worries me is that they probably wouldn't need a dedicated server just for te3. Apart from downloading the script and the support forum, i would guess it probably only gets a few hundred pings every hour or so. This could just be a bit of space on a shared server somewhere and they are obviously not making any income from it anymore. What happens when the guy's credit card expires ? will he bother to renew his hosting account if he's not making any money ?? I hope so

I agree with you, its a very well designed and rock solid script.

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Post by Zug » August 14th, 2023, 5:47 pm

tacnet wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 4:35 pm
Zug wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 4:04 pm
SlightLy wrote: ↑
June 29th, 2023, 2:45 pm
... The script will not run on PHP 8 without an update from Tradeexpert. The script is encrypted with Ioncube and needs an update.

I don't know the source code of the script, but it's quite possible that there is a regular communication between the Script and the Tradeexpert servers. As long as the Tradeexpert servers are online and accessible, this will not cause any problems. However, if the servers should be down at some point, the script is very likely to no longer be usable.

Tradeexpert is really one of the best scripts that are still on the market. Too bad you can't get the source code for a fee.
I think if they wanted to pull that plug they would have done so long ago. I think they are smart by simply keeping those servers up and running. Besides they probably have other things on them also. Doesn't make sense to just disconnect TE from their server. Like ya said, "Tradeexpert is really one of the best scripts that are still on the market." So why pull that plug? They know there is still demand for it.
I hope your right.

The only thing that worries me is that they probably wouldn't need a dedicated server just for te3. Apart from downloading the script and the support forum, i would guess it probably only gets a few hundred pings every hour or so. This could just be a bit of space on a shared server somewhere and they are obviously not making any income from it anymore. What happens when the guy's credit card expires ? will he bother to renew his hosting account if he's not making any money ?? I hope so

I agree with you, its a very well designed and rock solid script.
Further .. One would think that those that have paid for a TE script license, 'should' not need to depend on TE servers to remain active to have the paid for and licensed script operate. The only thing needed for paid licenses would to have the update link work if there are updates.

The users with a free version are the ones that will lose out if TE does decide to pull the plug. Which, to me, makes no sense for them to do that. But at the same time, if they want to gain more chance to make money from free users 2% skim (using the s=100), then the TE site's signup page should be working to allow users to download it, at the very least. You would think.




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Post by Zug » August 14th, 2023, 6:01 pm

.. I can't even use the link in the admin to 'Convert to Paid' version. It says, "Could not find mydomain.com under paid licences." .. not that I want to buy it at this time, anyway.




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Post by tacnet » August 14th, 2023, 6:28 pm

Zug wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 5:47 pm

Further .. One would think that those that have paid for a TE script license, 'should' not need to depend on TE servers to remain active to have the paid for and licensed script operate. The only thing needed for paid licenses would to have the update link work if there are updates.

The users with a free version are the ones that will lose out if TE does decide to pull the plug. Which, to me, makes no sense for them to do that. But at the same time, if they want to gain more chance to make money from free users 2% skim (using the s=100), then the TE site's signup page should be working to allow users to download it, at the very least. You would think.
I think it might be the other way round. The paid versions regularly ping their servers so they can check that the domain its coming from matches the domain that you've purchased the license for. Otherwise you could purchase one license and simply install it anywhere you want

My guess is that the free version probably has an in built algorithm to skim 2% of the clicks and send them to a pre-configured url on their servers. From there they can send them wherever they want

Thats how i would do it anyway.

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Post by TheButcher » August 14th, 2023, 7:02 pm

tacnet wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 6:28 pm
Zug wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 5:47 pm

Further .. One would think that those that have paid for a TE script license, 'should' not need to depend on TE servers to remain active to have the paid for and licensed script operate. The only thing needed for paid licenses would to have the update link work if there are updates.

The users with a free version are the ones that will lose out if TE does decide to pull the plug. Which, to me, makes no sense for them to do that. But at the same time, if they want to gain more chance to make money from free users 2% skim (using the s=100), then the TE site's signup page should be working to allow users to download it, at the very least. You would think.
I think it might be the other way round. The paid versions regularly ping their servers so they can check that the domain its coming from matches the domain that you've purchased the license for. Otherwise you could purchase one license and simply install it anywhere you want

My guess is that the free version probably has an in built algorithm to skim 2% of the clicks and send them to a pre-configured url on their servers. From there they can send them wherever they want

Thats how i would do it anyway.


I have a feel that is what they programmed in the beginning

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Post by CamLuCy » August 14th, 2023, 8:01 pm

For people who paid the nearly $500 for a license which is not cheap,they deserve to get updates for when PHP updates.




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Post by Sandman » August 14th, 2023, 8:11 pm

Does not seem like they are updating the scrip sucks , I thought of making a script the math did not really work out so I tried to contact some old script owners to possibly buy a dead project and the only one who replied back wanted a ton of $$$ lol
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Post by tacnet » August 14th, 2023, 9:13 pm

Sandman wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 8:11 pm
Does not seem like they are updating the scrip sucks , I thought of making a script the math did not really work out so I tried to contact some old script owners to possibly buy a dead project and the only one who replied back wanted a ton of $$$ lol
I hear what your saying. I thought about doing one myself but I simply dont have the time lol

The math WILL work in the long run though. Its simply a case of how long it takes to pay off. You could probably sell 15 to 20 licenses off the back of this thread alone (I want 3 licenses) and at $20 a month thats $300 - $400 a month right from the get go.

Its the kind of tool that once a webmaster has bought into it then they are never going to let it go so the turnover will ONLY ever grow. And NOW is the time to do it with all the TE3 users unable to upgrade to PHP8 and all of us looking for an alternative

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Post by Zug » August 14th, 2023, 10:19 pm

Sandman wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 8:11 pm
Does not seem like they are updating the scrip sucks , I thought of making a script the math did not really work out so I tried to contact some old script owners to possibly buy a dead project and the only one who replied back wanted a ton of $$$ lol
Why not get the open source to TradeX and rework that?

What other trade scripts are there, anyway?




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Post by Sandman » August 15th, 2023, 10:49 am

From what I remember tradex was a garbage script used by mostly noobs that had no traffic , maybe I’m remembering wrong been a few years lol
Zug wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 10:19 pm
Sandman wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 8:11 pm
Does not seem like they are updating the scrip sucks , I thought of making a script the math did not really work out so I tried to contact some old script owners to possibly buy a dead project and the only one who replied back wanted a ton of $$$ lol
Why not get the open source to TradeX and rework that?

What other trade scripts are there, anyway?
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Post by tacnet » August 15th, 2023, 10:55 am

Sandman wrote: ↑
August 15th, 2023, 10:49 am
From what I remember tradex was a garbage script used by mostly noobs that had no traffic , maybe I’m remembering wrong been a few years lol
Zug wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 10:19 pm
Sandman wrote: ↑
August 14th, 2023, 8:11 pm
Does not seem like they are updating the scrip sucks , I thought of making a script the math did not really work out so I tried to contact some old script owners to possibly buy a dead project and the only one who replied back wanted a ton of $$$ lol
Why not get the open source to TradeX and rework that?

What other trade scripts are there, anyway?
Is Tradex the same as TE3 or am i getting confused ???

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Post by TheButcher » August 15th, 2023, 11:01 am

tacnet wrote: ↑
August 15th, 2023, 10:55 am

Is Tradex the same as TE3 or am i getting confused ???
Tradex was put out by the now defunct JMBSoft
TE3 is TradeExpert.net

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