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Post by AlexO » July 20th, 2023, 12:29 pm

Just as always a few spoil it for the masses.
Give me celebrity porn :twisted:

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Post by BOB777 » July 23rd, 2023, 6:00 am

Free means free not mostly free or what I think it is free for you to say.




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Post by tacnet » July 23rd, 2023, 7:08 am

BOB777 wrote: ↑
July 23rd, 2023, 6:00 am
Free means free not mostly free or what I think it is free for you to say.
In a perfect word I would totally agree with you but like Alexo says, there is always going to be some extremist idiot who wants to promote violence and hatred and claim its his right to free speech

I remember a case a few years back where an American guy who had converted to Isis had been using twitter to promote Isis recruitment videos. He wanted to get western kids to join their Jihad against America. In other words he was tring to get kids to take up arms against his own country. When his account was blocked, he tried to claim it was his right to freedom of speech.

Thats the kind of shit I think should be blocked but who decides what is ok and what is not??? Thats I dont have an answer for. Tricky one

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Post by shoopa » July 24th, 2023, 10:33 am

TheButcher wrote: ↑
July 11th, 2023, 10:32 am
I am good with a salon saying we are a women's or men's hair salon. I actually think it is everyone's right to decide what they do and who they do it for.

However here is my problem with this story. I am assuming it is a fact that she said “If a human identifies as anything other than a man/woman, please seek services at a local pet groomer,”

In particular this part of the sentence.

"please seek services at a local pet groomer,”

That is rude that is uncalled for that is wrong. Why do you have to offend others. Again I am taking this to be the fact from this article.



"The owner of a Michigan hair salon said she is refusing service to some members of the LGBTQ+ community.

Christine Geiger, who owns Studio 8 Hair Lab in Traverse City, said in a Facebook post she is exercising her free speech by only allowing certain customers.

“If a human identifies as anything other than a man/woman, please seek services at a local pet groomer,” the hair salon owner said. “You are not welcome at this salon. Period.”"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/owner-bans-l ... 49068.html



Offend people if they are offended but let free speech rule.




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Post by gotonudecom » July 26th, 2023, 3:02 pm

XpressPete wrote: ↑
July 13th, 2023, 9:53 am
IT IS FREE SPEECH
NO one should tell anyone what to do or say, period. The ONLY time someone could possibly tell someone what to do is when there is something physical happening.

Like stop TOUCHING ME.
Stop stealing from me.
Get off my property.

Without FREE SPEECH we all become slaves.

YOU are offending ME by saying someone can not offend someone else.




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Post by TheButcher » July 26th, 2023, 3:09 pm

gotonudecom wrote: ↑
July 26th, 2023, 3:02 pm


NO one should tell anyone what to do or say, period. The ONLY time someone could possibly tell someone what to do is when there is something physical happening.

Like stop TOUCHING ME.
Stop stealing from me.
Get off my property.

Without FREE SPEECH we all become slaves.
I could not have said it better r6d10k

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Post by gotonudecom » July 26th, 2023, 3:17 pm

TheButcher wrote: ↑
July 26th, 2023, 3:09 pm
gotonudecom wrote: ↑
July 26th, 2023, 3:02 pm


NO one should tell anyone what to do or say, period. The ONLY time someone could possibly tell someone what to do is when there is something physical happening.

Like stop TOUCHING ME.
Stop stealing from me.
Get off my property.

Without FREE SPEECH we all become slaves.
I could not have said it better r6d10k
FYI I was joking about offending me.. I do not get offended.

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Post by Sandman » July 26th, 2023, 5:54 pm

Who cares tho there are a ton of salons out there , so what one salon does not want your biz , what she is doing personally I consider it dumb
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Post by Milton » July 27th, 2023, 8:15 am

Sandman wrote: ↑
July 26th, 2023, 5:54 pm
Who cares tho there are a ton of salons out there , so what one salon does not want your biz , what she is doing personally I consider it dumb
paqwb623 seems the simple way to get on with life without making a mountain of a mole hill.




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Post by born2bewild » July 30th, 2023, 5:33 am

If you put rules and limits then it is no longer free speech.




Is it free speech or going too far?

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