pornmafia wrote: ↑December 8th, 2025, 7:15 pmWhat choice does Ukraine have if we tell them to do this?
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-want ... r-another/
EXCLUSIVE
December 8, 2025 2:37 pm CET
By Veronika Melkozerova
Peace talks between the U.S. and Ukraine have stumbled over one main issue: how to force Ukraine to give up what the Kremlin has failed to seize during the war — the entirety of the Donbas region.
“On the territory issue, Americans are simple: Russia demands Ukraine to give up territories, and Americans keep thinking how to make it happen,” a senior European official familiar with the negotiation process told POLITICO on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter.
“The Americans insist that Ukraine must leave the Donbas … one way or another,” the official added."
Politely refuse
And if serious…
These people are insane. They changed US from a hero to russian ally. It will have devastating consequences to US reputation and world safety. China and others are watching. And they see that war could pay off.
99.9% Ukraine and Europe won’t allow that, but just trying to force it is already made huge damage.


